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Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Bucks Blue, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. Bucks Blue

    Bucks Blue Well-Known Member
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    First of all... well done... You deserved it over the 2 legs and you've a great chance to win it. Congrats. I've just come back from Swansea and it only took 2 hours 30 mins to get home! Weather was shoite as it was when we went in October... can't you make it sunny for next time!?

    But... your ballboys were shocking. Not just the one who got kicked... all of them. The amount of time wasting was a joke tbh. Looping the balls high in the air. Rolling it really slowly on the floor. Hey the one who got kicked even admitted on twitter before the game that he would time waste! It was a shambles and shameful but it shouldn't take the gloss off what you have done.

    Couldn't really tell if it was a red or not. Been told yes. the advertising boards blocked our view. Then your fans started hurtling down the stand to get Hazard sent off. Don't get me wrong... every club probably would have done the same but i was disappointed not one got on the pitch! ;)

    And then there was the 'Swansea ballboy, he does what he wants'... No comment. The ballboy got a lot of abuse from our fans as he walked past and rightly so imo. He does his job properly then none of this happens. Just give the farking ball back instead of rolling on top of it! BUT Hazard shouldn't have reacted in the way that he did...

    Anyways well done and enjoy Wembley.
     
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  2. swimaway

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    Jeez ....you have let yourself down almost as much as your players .......

    180 minutes and you try and blame kids instead of appreciating the beautiful game itself which produced a just winner. Thanks for the 'well wishes' as begrudged as they seem.

    Hope you got home safely though.
     
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  3. DragonPhilljack

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    Bucks the brat was a disgrace, and has got Hazard into trouble, and has detracted from our game, which is what it will be remembered for now, 'the Semi Cup hazard of a ballboy' the shame is that this ploy was clearly a tactic of the club, (Not sure this is common practise) and it's very unsportsmanlike of us, and was not needed.

    I have to say that the complicity of our club in this goes to the Boardroom, as this brat is the son of one of our directors Martin Morgan, and if hazard is to be punished, then I think that the FA should look into the instructions given to our ballboys, as it was the Directors son who created the incident in the first place, and our club should be sanction somewhat in regard to this. Anyway you can read the details more here on this article in the Mail.


    Mail Link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-ribs-refuses-return-ball-cup-semi-final.html
     
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  4. NewJerseySwan

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    Was that the only ball that could have been used in play? There are usually a number of balls on the sidelines that can be used. Call for another ball rather than kick the ball boy, bizarre thing to do. The game wasn't on here in the USA, well not on my tv but I'm guessing it was a Swansea goal kick and time was running out for Chelsea. Waiting for 10 00pm to watch it. Now my problem is, my bucket list. Watch the Swans in a Wembley final fanfuckintastic and crap as this will cost me 1000 quid with air fairs and what, but by hook and by crook I will be there. If I can get a ticket, I will be there.
     
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  5. Yankee_Jack

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    Hazard got himself into trouble. If he can't exercise enough self-control to avoid "violent conduct" under the laws of the game, never mind committing a basic assault under general statutes, then he really has nobody to blame but himself. And don't give me any bullshit about big game, pressure, blah, blah, blah. As NewJersey has said, there's more than one ball around the field for the keeper to spot and kick back into play. Hazard's responsibility when the ball goes out of play is to get back into position for the restart not go chasing after the ball and start assaulting ground staff especially when the kid was knocked over to start with and was face down on the ball.

    Back in the days of one match ball, no player would have had the balls to go into a crowded stand behind the goal to retrieve the ball. The referee is not blind (although some do strain credulity) and would have added additional time on for the delay, which I'm sure he did.
     
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  6. JackPA26

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    Good boy! You know it makes sense <cheers> My issue is that I'd have to miss most of my daughters 7th birthday....the solution is to bring her with me ($2000 !)....and then I'd have to sort my wife out (probably another $1000). This history making is bloody expensive.
     
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  7. Paulpowersleftfoot

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    As a neutral,I thought it showed Swansea City in a very poor light to be honest
    It was extremely cheap to be complicit in that behaviour
     
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  8. Jager

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    Complicit ? Really there is no proof at all in that, it was a stupid thing to do by the ball boy and hazard.

    This crap about boardroom being involved is just ****e phil, what the **** have you've been drinking ?
     
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  9. Bap666

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    Yes the ball boy should be embarrassed and shouldn't be doing what he did, but, as I said on another thread, you cant justify kicking the kid in the ribs. At no point during the game did he go up to Tremmel and kick him for taking his time. Mind you, Tremmel is over 6 foot so that might have something to do with it. On another note just cos Glenn Hoddle claims European teams instruct their ball boys to deliberately waste time doesn't make it so for us. If what is being said is true that the ball boy planned to do this even before he went to the game then it was his own idea and not that of the club.
    It does make me laugh when there is this furore of what the ball boys were doing yet professional players do it in every game all the time. Maybe next time the opposition keeper picks the ball up and moves it across the other side of the box for a goal kick a few of us in the South Stand should jump the hoardings and give him a kicking and then ask the ref to sanction their club.
     
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  10. Paulpowersleftfoot

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    Watching as a neutral it was irritating how blatantly the ball boys were trying to waste time
    If you really don't think your club were complicit in this I'd be amazed
     
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  11. DerekTheMole

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    Hazard said he kicked the ball from under him (or tried to?) and didn't intend to kick the boy. I'm not sure what to believe because the ball was underneath him, but I think the red was right and Hazard's punishment should be left at that.

    Ban the ball boy, too. At least for a while.

    In fairness to Swansea as a club (never thought I'd say this!) I would expect the ballboys all know each other in some way? It could just be they all agreed to do it without the clubs backing, as they're Swansea fans anyway and obviously wanted them to go through.
     
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  12. aberdude

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    ready the article in the daily mail it states the ball boy is 17>>>so he`s a ball man and not a kid after all>>>>hazards only 19 so in my world it twas a fair fight <laugh>

    by the way congrats on getting through <ale>
     
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  13. trundles left foot

    trundles left foot Well-Known Member

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    Bucks how often do players waste time. If you had been 3 up and cech was wasting time and a player run over and kicked him. think you would have something to say. the whole incident took 10 seconds, you lot couldnt score in 3 hours.

    Hazard should be ashamed of himself. i actually agree that the ballboy was wasting time. But, you just cant kick him. I have no doubt your ball boys slowed the game down when you played barcelona.

    I am sorry but there is no excuses for what Hazard done. You can try and make as many excuses for him as you want. there are none. Lets see what the FA do about it and there is your answer as who is at fault.
     
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  14. DerekTheMole

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    I can't believe people get so outraged about so many things that aren't big deals. Too many Daily Fail readers, methinks.

    Kid gets a little knock in the ribs, he's not hurt, receives apology, accepts apology and doesn't press charges.

    That's the end of that gripping tale of "The battle of Hazard and the ball boy"
     
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  15. Bucks Blue

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    I agree... Hazard shouldn't have done that and tbh... I've watched it back... there is the intention of getting the ball and from certain angles... he does get the ball. Apparently when the kid walked past our fans he was holding his other side and not the side that had been kicked! I doubt that there was any contact at all! But Hazard shouldn't have done it.

    The thing is... A ball boy should get the ball and give it straight back. This ball boy took the ball from Hazard who was going to retrieve it and then didn't give it back and then is rolling around on the ball and still not giving it back. He should be sacked and never be a ball boy ever again. But as I say... it wasn't just that one... it was all of them.

    However it is a shame because it takes the gloss off your win. You haven't conceded in 180 mins of football against the European Champs and that's impressive. Meanwhile.... we are in a wee bit of a mess with this joke of a manager!
     
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  16. mustyfrog

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    i better change my fantasy league captain
     
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  17. Goodland

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    Very true - it's a comment on the media. They don't really know how to discuss football other than in Giant/small team dynamics, about X passyed to Y and Y scored the goal descriptive "analysis" or through 'scandal'.

    It was embarrassing how they focused on Ba's non-penalty, trying to stoke flames, rather than discussing Michu's chance in the first half (no replays!) or the one Chelsea had cleared off the line (one replay) and how Chelsea could have been makng the most of their aerial power.

    It comes down to a) insulting the intelligence of the football fan in assuming we just want the emotional side of the game (which is ridiculous seeing the praise that Neville gets for doing the opposite), and b) laziness of the journalists pandering to the lowest common denominator by prompting resentment and outrage.

    The coverage was rubbish, I'll be honest, on Sky. Anyone else feel liek they were watching a different game? Sure Chelsea had more control of the ball, but we did have the clearest chances before half time and seemed to completely forget about that.
     
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    Was it just me or did anyone else think Chelsea didn't have a high enough tempo ?
     
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  19. spacy

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    It wasn't just you. Call me deluded but I actually thought that Swansea deserved to win. Sure Chelsea had more chances but I felt that Swansea's chances were more clear cut. Michu's chance for instance. On a regular day he'd scored on that one. Chelsea played a lot better and looked far more dangerous in the first encounter.
     
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  20. trundles left foot

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    I agree with you, but the slight problem i have is people trying to justify Hazards actions. There is no way a professional should have done what he did. It is just totally unacceptable. To many Ex Chelsea players and staff are trying to justify his actions in the media. Immaterial that the Ball boys actions were wrong (which they were) he (Hazard) was completely out of order. Lets see if Chelsea appeal.

    Time wasting is and has been part of the game from day one and of course it doesnt make it right what he done. But Mr Hazard that was a bit over the top.
     
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