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Is the Premier League getting stronger or weaker?

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by District Line, Dec 27, 2012.

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Strength of the Premier League?

Poll closed Jan 11, 2013.
  1. Stronger

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  1. Boss

    Boss Son of Pulis

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    What about the year pompey stayed up? and wigan won 7 out of 9 games last year to stay up.
     
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  2. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    QPR's squad should be mid-table. They now have a manager who's extremely familiar with the league and has a proven track record in it.
     
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  3. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Pompey spent millions in the January window on about 10 games (part of the reason they are where they are now). Martinez switched up the tactics and teams couldn't cope, Wigan often outnumbered teams in the midfield and dominated possession. Caldwell and Boyce who has been poor also felt far more confident with the 3-4-3 and their improvement was the main reason Wigan stayed up.
     
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  4. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    If QPR go down it will be a great shame. A better manager could have had them midtable, Hughes and their board made a number of poor signings.
     
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    wigan were practically relegated, so for a team in such a dire position to simply have to change their formation to win 7 out of 9 games, goes agaisnt the arguement used on this thread.

    As for pompey, they spent money, yet also signed one on loan, overall their team was still fairly weak and qpr has more talent so QPR going on a good run isn't any reflection of the leagues current standard, they are just being managed correctly and playing as a team.

    Also you need to put huge importance on how much belief a manager like Arry can bring, especiially for short term goals.
     
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  6. notsosmartspur

    notsosmartspur Well-Known Member

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    Why?...they've already beaten you at home!
     
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    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Why? They've got a quality 'keeper, plenty of experienced players and are trying to spend their way out of trouble. Just because Hughes is a **** coach(as I told you at the start of the season) who couldn't manage his way out of a paper bag, it doesn't mean the squad was crap too. Reading would probably be a better example if they stayed up but that's just seeing what you want, to be honest. You could also look at City and Newcastle not doing as well having kept the same squad that was so successful in the previous season for a sign that the league's got better, if you wanted.
     
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  8. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Both City and Newcastle are weaker IMO. 2nd season syndrome
     
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    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Anyone could tbh <laugh>
     
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    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Until Newcastle sold Ba the had pretty much the same side that did so well last season, City similar. You can roll out a cliche like "second season syndrome" if you want but it doesn't make it right, the fact is two sides that have barely changed personnel since last season are not doing as well.
     
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    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Teams have to evolve and keep changing if you do that you lag behind.

    Liverpool's decline began when they didn't invest and began to think they could win the league in the 90s with the same core of players they had in the 80s.
     
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    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    So Bradford come out on top against 3 Premier League Teams, will be 1/5 of the league if they win the final. Great to see the PL getting so stronger <party>
     
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    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    16 votes to 16 means this is pretty much a non argument. I'm sure you must have something to do/say a bit more interesting than reviving this stale mate of a thread.

    Go dance on another grave. <party>
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Cup upsets? Yeah, they've never happened before, have they?
     
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    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    How can you sensibly judge the strength of the PL by analysing the results of a few (often significantly weakened) teams in a midweek cup competition?
     
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    District Line Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    A league 2 team beating one PL team or even two is a cupset but when it happens to three PL teams over a 4 game period you have to assess the league, IMO.

    I won't drag it up again but food for thought.
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    When teams are fielding weakened and disinterested sides, then it's definitely something that needs to be looked at, but not in the sense that you're suggesting, in my opinion.
    I'm not including Villa in that, as I just think that they're in total disarray. It's almost unbelievable how quickly they've gone into decline.
     
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    Why aren't you ever prepared to give any credit to the opponents, and the possibility it is they that get stronger. It seems obvious that the PL because of its strength, will not advance at the same rate as lower teams/leagues. Because of the gap in class, lower teams can make bigger strides with investment, and that is happening lower down the leagues, they have the scope to make big improvements. When the PL has got some of the worlds best players in it already, I can't imagine just what improvement you expect, but its not feasible. If you could remove your head from the arse of the PL for one minute and have look around, you might see it. Do you watch the Football League show?...you won't find it on Sky btw. :)
     
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    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    You're just pissed that they made it to the final and you didn't. <whistle>
    Bradford > Ex-European Champions.
     
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    It's clearly weaker - after all, a ball boy can be solely responsible for a 2-0 aggregate loss according to the Chelsea boneheads across the internet...
     
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