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The fall of Arsenal

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by crackerman jack, Dec 1, 2012.

  1. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    How has Per Mertesacker ended up with that job?!

    And what's all this nonsense about salaries not being made available for public knowledge? If a job is funded for by the paying public, they have a right to know what the money is being spent on. That's why salary information is freely available for teachers, police, nurses etc.

    I find it rather unfair when clubs keep financial dealings secret... after all some of that money they're using has come from the people they're trying to keep the information secret from!

    The issue is, there are still lots of people in the country who pay a lot to watch football (supply and demand etc). If less of that money goes to the footballers, where's the rest of it going to go?? I'd rather the footballers had it than the owners of the clubs.
     
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    less money for the players,Less money to go to watch a game,simples <bubbly>
     
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  3. cini65

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    Not really... less will be only be charged if significantly less tickets are sold on a consistent basis. Clubs aren't going to purposefully lower ticket prices to then pay their stars less... their players will just go to another club who don't do that. It's only 'simple' if a pay limit is agreed globally. if it only happens in a few countries then no players will play in those countries.

    And even then, if clubs saved money by only having to shell out max 80k a week on any player, do you really think the clubs will pass on their savings and charge less for tickets?? Or just have more players on 80k in their squad and in their books? Supply and demand...
     
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  4. totsfan

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    Supply and demand,thats why there are Falling Crowds and teams sending back ticket allocations,there is no demand
     
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    What Cini65 says is correct, IMO. A salary cap was introduced into RFU in England. Result? Many of the top players buggered off to France where the salary cap is far higher. So yes, it would only work if there was Europe wide agreement on a cap.
     
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  6. cini65

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    At the big clubs who are primarily the ones who pay these high wages, that isn't true on a consistent basis.
     
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    West Ham's wage bill is higher than most of the Premier League's!
     
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  8. totsfan

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    That's because the fan's have to choose what games they can afford to go and see,as they can't afford to go to every game,like they used to be able to
     
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  9. District Line

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    There will always be demand for the top 6/7 clubs
     
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  10. totsfan

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    Try telling that to the Man city fans that refused to go to the emirates libary D/L
     
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  11. notsosmartspur

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    Exactly!...how?...its gotta be a wind up.
     
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  12. PleaseNotPoll

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  13. SpursDisciple

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    I guess he wanted someone intimidating? Walcott and Cazorla were never in the running!
     
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  14. notsosmartspur

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    Great article, worth a thread of it's own really.
     
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  17. NotSoMightyEastbourneBoro

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    Just because you pay a lot of money for something doesn't mean it's better than anything else. Just ask Chelsea about Torres or Swansea about Michu..... 7 league goals this season for Torres but 13 for Michu.

    Just because the Premier League pisses money away with gay abandon on a bunch of all-so-rans and then charges extortionate amounts of money for 90 minutes of sometimes extreme boredom (or 90 minutes of neck-ache if you watch Stoke) doesn't make it the best thing since sliced bread. Hell, I enjoyed Hastings Town v Harrogate more than the majority of Premier matches I've seen this season.
     
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  18. Wandering Yid

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    Seem to remember it's been posted on here before, think that's how I came across it...
     
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  19. redwhiteandermblue

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    I'm always surprised few complain about how much money Taylor Swift or Tom Cruise makes, but lots of people complain about how much athletes make. They're all entertainers. They get paid because millions of people are happy to pay to see them. If I was in their shoes, I suppose I might be one of the few not to press hard to make the most money I could, but I doubt it. (I would keep in mind, though, that a good reputation is worth millions in potential endorsements, not to mention quite a bit in intangibles, to its owner.)

    I personally get a lot more entertainment out of watching Moussa Dembele play football than from watching Tom Cruise act in a movie, so I think Cruise should take a pay cut and Dembele should get more. And as long as gazillions of money goes into the sport, I'd rather it go the people who do the entertaining than those who manage them and profit from them.

    Most of us would prefer a better run league, like the Bundesliga. But what's really required is systematic control of the whole game, including revenue sharing, as the NFL has. But if you try to cut wages and ticket prices without it, you'll merely drive the best players to other leagues, and not many want that. As good as the Bundesliga is, more of the best players are in La Liga, the PL and Serie A.

    It's a miserable world. Baseball went through a revolution in the eighties in which they started to charge much more for tickets, and, amazingly, greatly upped attendance. They figured out how to market to the upper middle class families that had stayed away from the stadiums because they were filled with drinking, smoking, working class types--partly by pricing working class people out of the games.
     
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  20. Wandering Yid

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    There's a big difference between actors and sportsmen in this country RWAEB. Football is overpriced for the spectator, movies aren't especially. Most people in the country can easily afford to go to the cinema once a week to watch a movie, significantly fewer people can afford to watch their football team every week. Player salaries are pricing the public out of a game they love, actor's salaries do not price movie-goers out of the cinema.
     
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