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King to the rescue?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Tony Angelino, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. Erik

    Erik Well-Known Member

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    Excellent points in both posts. Unfortunately, people have already made up their minds.
     
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  2. petersaxton

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    Are you thinking of WW1? I don't know of any executions in WW2 although there were hundreds executed by the British army in WW1.
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

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    Why are we even having this debate?

    Bruce thinks he's an even bigger **** than Ben does.
     
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  4. Kempton

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    This is an easy one Tom. Luke cares about what he did. Marlon couldn't give a **** !
     
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  5. petersaxton

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    I don't think the debate is about whether he is a ****. I don't see why **** is supposed to be a term of abuse. I'm a fan.
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

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    It depends on what sort of **** it is, I never got a stiffy looking at Marlon.
     
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    Id have him back for sure
     
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  8. Erik

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    More of a Jo Brand man? Likewise.
     
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  9. originallambrettaman

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    I wouldn't be surprised if her **** was knob shaped.
     
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  10. Erik

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    All that tells me is that her pussy will be as snug as her ample bosom.
     
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  11. petersaxton

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    I got excited a few times when he scored!
     
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  12. Fez

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    It's a concern that the three of you believe this nonsense. McCormick did not set out with an intent to injure any one, let alone cause their deaths. He was in the wrong,but not malicious. King has a long history of crime and violence; his actions that night were gratuitous and malicious and incomparable to a foolish and thoughtless traffic violation that had such horrendous consequences for all concerned. By all means forgive, if that is your leaning, but cut the sanctimonious bullshit.

    For those who ask, why not discuss this?
     
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  13. Steven Toast

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    He might not have meant it, but he damn well knew he was over the limit; his friend even rang him and pleaded with him to pull into a service station, but he refused. Of course he didn't set out to kill anybody, but it was in his hands.

    It's not sanctimonious to not want to kill people; given the choice I'd rather take a bullet for refusing to kill than taking a life myself, but that's just me. But then I wouldn't even bother joining the Army in the first place, so it'd be a moot issue. I'm not a pacifist, but I don't think that going to the extreme of killing is necessary.

    King doesn't have a long history of crime and violence, there were two incidents. We were fully aware of the first one when he signed for us and yet nobody really complained. And the few that might of had qualms suddenly went silent when he started scoring for us. If he signed for us tomorrow and finished with say, 15 goals, people really wouldn't give a **** about those two incidents because he'd have taken us into the PL. The euphoria of promotion and partying would drown out thoughts of what he'd done and replace it with cult status.

    It's irrelevant, because he won't be coming and he is a ****, but if he did, I wouldn't give a toss what he did if he sent us into the Premier League.
     
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  14. petersaxton

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    King has a long history of crime and a much shorter one of violence:

    "While on loan to Hull City, King was alleged to have headbutted teammate Dean Windass in a casino in Scarborough. Hull City stated that the matter had been dealt with internally, and both players remained with the club.[47] Windass later described the incident as a "storm in a teacup".

    King has convictions for 14 offences, dating from 1997.[48][49] He received fines, driving bans, community service sentences, a rehabilitation order and orders to pay compensation on convictions including: theft from a person and from a car, criminal damage, and attempting to obtain property by deception; fraudulent use of vehicle licence document, driving without insurance, speeding, drink driving; a wounding incident while playing amateur football, and two cases involving assault of young women rejecting his advances in the Soho area of London.

    Two cases led to imprisonment. In May 2002 he received an eighteen-month prison sentence for receiving stolen goods, in relation to a BMW convertible that he was found driving. He was found not guilty of a charge of assaulting a police officer in a related case. His solicitor commented that "His reputation will be tarnished forever, whatever success he achieves, he'll always be referred to in a Tyson-esque way as someone who has had a criminal past and that is a considerable penalty."[50][51] Gillingham continued to pay his salary while he was in jail, and supported in his appeal, which resulted in the sentence being reduced to nine months, and he was released on licence after five months, returning to the Gillingham team within two days of his release.[52]

    In December 2008, again in the Soho area, King was arrested on suspicion of punching a 20 year-old female university student in the face, causing a broken nose and split lip for which she was treated in hospital. He was later convicted of sexual assault and assault occasioning actual bodily harm, and sentenced to 18 months in prison and placed on the Sex Offender Register for seven years.[2] Wigan Athletic immediately initiated the cancellation of his contract.[18] King’s agent, Tony Finnigan, said he was confident that his client would find a club on his release, which was on 29 July 2010,[53] and accused the Professional Footballers' Association (PFA) of failing to offer support. Gordon Taylor, the chief executive of the PFA, said that the PFA did not represent players when they have broken the law and been convicted on non-footballing matters. It would support members with anger management or other issues if approached but no approach had been made by King.[15] After his release, he made an appeal against the conviction which was unsuccessful."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_King#Personal_life
     
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  15. TygerTyger

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    Nothing to discuss, you are dead right.

    Furthermore Kings crimes are founded on his football career. "Do you know who I am" and "I'm a millionaire" would not have "justified" his actions if he'd been an unemployed car thief which was his second choice of career.

    He is lucky that he is a gifted fotballer, every woman in the country is unlucky (and at risk) because of it
     
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  16. Steven Toast

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    Ah I didn't see that, I stand corrected on that point.
     
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  17. petersaxton

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    As you can see I'm not a fan of Marlon King as a person. I would suggest that there's an argument that he should have received longer sentences. My main point is that there's no logic that people who have served their sentences should be banned from activities that don't have any bearing on their criminal past. I also don't think that his activities deserve a death sentence.
     
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  18. Fez

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  19. petersaxton

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    Pity you don't seem to be able to think rationally. Didn't you see the following in the link you provided?

    "Brown was also given a sexual offences prevention order, banned from working with children and placed on the sex offenders register for life."
     
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  20. Fez

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    Why are you being obtuse? The death sentence comment was web rhetoric and unworthy of serious response.

    The issue of employment in football is that the employers and fans make a choice not to employ him or welcome him into their football family - a ban borne of self- selection - something you seem to discount.
     
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