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King to the rescue?

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Tony Angelino, Jan 21, 2013.

  1. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    It's a bit academic, as there's no way Bruce would want him, but Brum have said he's not available on a free anyway.
     
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  2. onceatiger

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    JUST SAY NO!!!

    (sorry, poor joke, but under no circumstances would he be welcome back at my club......)
     
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  3. The FRENCH TICKLER

    The FRENCH TICKLER Well-Known Member

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  4. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    No. We could get another teacher who is just as good. I can't see us getting another striker who's just as good. It's not like he's going to thump women in the crowd or in the club. He most likely wouldn't move from where he lives now if it was a loan to the end of the season.
     
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  5. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    Overreaction?
     
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  6. Ron Burguvdy

    Ron Burguvdy Well-Known Member

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    For those that say 'yes' -would you welcome a *****phile if they said sorry?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_King

    Incidents and legal cases

    While on loan to Hull City, King was alleged to have headbutted teammate Dean Windass in a casino in Scarborough. Hull City stated that the matter had been dealt with internally, and both players remained with the club.[47] Windass later described the incident as a "storm in a teacup".

    King has convictions for 14 offences, dating from 1997.[48][49] He received fines, driving bans, community service sentences, a rehabilitation order and orders to pay compensation on convictions including: theft from a person and from a car, criminal damage, and attempting to obtain property by deception; fraudulent use of vehicle licence document, driving without insurance, speeding, drink driving; a wounding incident while playing amateur football, and two cases involving assault of young women rejecting his advances in the Soho area of London.

    Two cases led to imprisonment. In May 2002 he received an eighteen-month prison sentence for receiving stolen goods, in relation to a BMW convertible that he was found driving. He was found not guilty of a charge of assaulting a police officer in a related case. His solicitor commented that "His reputation will be tarnished forever, whatever success he achieves, he'll always be referred to in a Tyson-esque way as someone who has had a criminal past and that is a considerable penalty."[50][51] Gillingham continued to pay his salary while he was in jail, and supported in his appeal, which resulted in the sentence being reduced to nine months, and he was released on licence after five months, returning to the Gillingham team within two days of his release.[52]

    In December 2008, again in the Soho area, King was arrested on suspicion of punching a 20 year-old female university student in the face, causing a broken nose and split lip for which she was treated in hospital. He was later convicted of sexual assault and assault occasioning actual bodily harm, and sentenced to 18 months in prison and placed on the Sex Offender Register for seven years.[2] Wigan Athletic immediately initiated the cancellation of his contract.[18] King’s agent, Tony Finnigan, said he was confident that his client would find a club on his release, which was on 29 July 2010,[53] and accused the Professional Footballers' Association (PFA) of failing to offer support. Gordon Taylor, the chief executive of the PFA, said that the PFA did not represent players when they have broken the law and been convicted on non-footballing matters. It would support members with anger management or other issues if approached but no approach had been made by King.[15] After his release, he made an appeal against the conviction which was unsuccessful.[54]
     
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  7. look_back_in_amber

    look_back_in_amber Well-Known Member

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    Erm no thanks, for obvious reasons.

    As for him 'guaranteeing' us promotion, I'd rather we stayed in the Chump FOREVER than signed him up!
     
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  8. ellewoods

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    To often sports fans forgive and forget when it comes to players attacking women. At least here it seems (kobe, big ben, tyson etc). Personally I am proud that so many of our fans would rather he take a really long walk off a really short bridge.
     
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  9. petersaxton

    petersaxton Well-Known Member

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    "For those that say 'yes' -would you welcome a *****phile if they said sorry?"

    It's not a question of saying sorry. It's a question of serving their sentence. If the sentence is the death penalty then obviously there is no way that they would be able to play for Hull City after being executed. If the sentence was 6 months in jail AND never play football again then there is no way that they would be able to play football for Hull City again. If the sentence was 6 months in jail then I don't see the point of not allowing somebody to play football after they have served their sentence.

    Surely, at some point people should be classed as having served their sentence and be accepted back into society without having irrational restrictions.

    Do people think that Marlon King should not be able to obtain employment serving in a shop, cleaning cars or any one of numerous other occupations or is it just football? I don't understand the logic.
     
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  10. ellewoods

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    The logic is that a sports team is not a shop, or a store. A sports team is an extension of each individual fan, an extension of a city and a people. Who plays for that team, who owns them, how the fans in the stadium act etc reflect not on just each thing but on everyone associated with said sports team. This is why there are clauses in contracts that stipulate conduct outside the game, practice etc.

    No one is saying people who commit crimes do not deserve a chance to start over again after their sentence. The difference being the fact that this is not a regular job. The difference being that when he walks onto a field he is representing you and me and everyone else. It isnt like he robbed a bank, or stole a car, those things tend to have roots in social economic situations.

    When you sexually assault a woman that isnt based off something that is easy to explain and it isnt easily forgiven. This is why the only ones more on the bottom in the prision hierarchy are pedafiles. It is because there is something wrong with you in the head when you commit crimes such as that. I hope he got treatment and I hope he will not do it again but no sports fan wants to be associated with someone like that.

    I think that is the logic, at least for me.

    Perhaps I should add that if you are someone who can forgive that probably means you are by far the better person. Forgiviness is a powerful thing. The fact that some including myself can not forgive certain acts does not mean that those who can are not being the bigger people. There is obviously a difference between forgiveness and forgetting and no one who would let him play on our team again is likely to forget only forgive.
     
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  11. petersaxton

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    I think a shop would disagree with you. The owners and customers wouldn't want to be associated with somebody who committed offences. Should certain offenders be banned from playing certain sports or certain levels of sport?

    I'm not sure I will be swayed by the opinions of criminals as to my views of criminal offences.
     
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  12. CANADATIGER

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    He has a criminal record going back 15 years including two long terms behind bars. His unprovoked assault on a 20-year old girl in a bar who wanted nothing to do with him shows he is a complete low life without morals. He should have been banned for life. That anyone on here would think we should sign him is a sad commentary on their moral and ethical standards.
     
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  13. mostynthecat

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    Wishing a player dead does not reflect very well to other fans on other boards btw.

    If Mr King wishes to gain employment may I suggest a minimum wage job at McDonalds or as a cleaner, and that goes for every player who has been charged with assault, drink driving etc. Why should they earn thousands a week doing a job they love when they have let themselves, their team-mates, their managers and more importantly the chairman who pays their wages down. But some club will sign King up like some club signed that scumbag Luke McCormick
     
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  14. SteveBruce

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    I would not bring Marlon King to Hull City, even if it guaranteed promotion.
     
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  15. SouthYorkshireTiger

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    no, and no, and no
    We said noooo marlon we said noooooooooooooooo
     
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  16. Disco Dancing Elmo

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    Don't need him around here ever again. He should drop down and rot in the Blue Square South.
     
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  17. SouthYorkshireTiger

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    Rot in prison more like! Footballers are supposed to be role models! What sort of role model are people like Marlon King?!
     
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  18. goldentruetiger

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    Bit too rapey.
     
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  19. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Some things are much more important than success on the pitch and Im sure the club realise this.
     
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  20. Carmine Galante.

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    Well said that person.

    Didn't he break the lasses nose when she told him to do one or have I just made that up?

    Either or, anyone saying they'd turn a blind eye to his past just because he can score a few goals needs to have a word with themselves.
     
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