He did, but my comment is a general observation hiag, not just on this game. He didn't give the Rooney pen, others would have, that converted for 2-0 and we would have been finished. Fine lines!
I thought that Pat Nevin had the right view of the incident on MOTD2 last night. From Foy's point of view, from behind, it looked as if Rooney's left leg just collided with Naughton - so no penalty. However, from the linesman's point of view, it looked much more like Naughton came across Rooney, and that it was a penalty. So, his view was that if anybody was going to give the Pen, it would have been him.
Totally agree. Also think the linesman might have assumed Caulker (not Naughton) got the ball based on the direction it travelled. Even though he clearly didn't touch it, I thought the direction of the ball quite strange?
I thought the same NSIS, and it wound me up a bit that Hansen was just talking across him saying "it's as big a stonewall penalty as you'll ever see!" I've just wated MOTD2 again. what you've said here literally sums it up. - How the lino didn't give it, I don't know. But there's no way Foy could have.
Looking at this posted by PNP it seem to me Caulker got the ball before Rooney fouled him. Fair enough Rooney was at full tilt so I don't think he should yellow carded. [video]http://i.minus.com/iwF8L3mw9STHf.gif[/video]
The fact that Rooney is appealing before he's hit the ground says everything - he was looking for the penalty, not the ball.
Imo, from the angle we've all seen with Foy looking straight at it, it would seem all the pundits missed the direction the ball went, because at speed it looked like Caulker played it that way in the tangle of legs, from the lino angle you can see Rooney played it. I'd say the lino saw Foys view which looked perfect, no obstruction and 10 ft away, and because he didn't blow up, well, just bottled it I suppose. Tough tatties SAF. He may also have been redressing the balance!
I think what actually happens is Caulker kicks Rooney's foot into the ball, causing the ball to change direction.
Who cares! its what it looked like at speed to Foy, not too bothered about what exactly happened, we got away with it.
**** happens,we have had penalty's not given this season,because the ref think's Bale hasn't been fouled
1. I'm not convinced this isn't a dive by Rooney BUT more importantly 2. How many penalties have ManUre had that they don't deserve? How many results have been changed by awful decisions that go in their favour. Their fans will always continue to mention incidents like this that go against them but actually its an exception that proves the rule. The incidents that go for them are just too numerous to list. HOWEVER I'm still becoming convinced that it isn't these blatant incidents that catch the eye that really indicate the ManUre bias of the refs, its what was alluded to earlier - the fact that they don't get as many yellows as they should for persistent fouling while the opposition do for exactly the same thing. It's more subtle than the eye catching stuff but can be at least as important come the way the game goes. AND, OF COURSE 3. Because the way the media sees ManUre, we are continuing to discuss this as whether they didn't get a penalty they deserved, but as I said before had Bale been in exactly the same situation the debate would be whether he dived or not, not whether it was a pen.
I've have lost count of the number of undeserved penalty's United have had ,as there are so many,because Baconface put's pressure in the officals, by making statement's like the one he made after the game
I don't know if anyone can back this up, but someone told me we haven't had a penalty in the league at WHL since 2011? If that is true, then it looks like we have been on the end of our fair share of wrong decisions! For me it was a penalty, however its the classic sort of decision we haven't had go our way year after year against Man Utd. You only have to look to last season at WHL when we had a perfectly good goal disallowed before they went on to destroy us. Any Man Utd fans complaining would do well to remember some of the disgraceful luck and injustice they have profited from over the years. Have to say I agree with this completely. How an earth did Dawson get booked for a quite fantastic tackle, where you then had Kagawa shortly after, pulling Dembele to the floor? Not only did he not get booked for a quite clearly cynical foul, we also didn't even give a free kick! On another note, Defoe is really lacking in confidence at the moment, which is slightly worrying. He is such a confidence player, and that chance where Ferdinand was able to get back and tackle would have been very different on a confident Defoe day.
I personally thought it was a penalty at the time and thought it was a major let off as that would've killed the game off, though last night on SSN, they were talking to Dermot Gallagher and Alan Curbishley and both said "no pen" which really surprised me. They said that Rooney's left leg clattered into the back of Caulker more so than Caulker clattering into him (understandable to be fair) and as a result shouldn't have been given, personally I still see it as a pen but this is coming from a once rival manager AND a former "top" referee so it's hardly biased views.
