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Mashley Worse Than Venky's

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Stamford Brook R, Jan 15, 2013.

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  1. Stamford Brook R

    Stamford Brook R Well-Known Member

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    Seriously he's making mugs out of you all. He'll be selling S Taylor, Cabaye and Ben Arfa next. Krul has got me loads of FPL points this season, will have to find another keeper.
     
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    Fill your boots lads
     
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  3. Katmandu

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    I've been saying this would happen and getting ridiculed for it! we have some class players but they are on low wages for their ability so eventually it simply willl happen. We are a cattle market and the fact we are run and owned by a cheap shop owner tells its own story. Embrace the horror it's all we can do. Our faith is all we have had to shout about for 50 or 60 years now.
     
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  4. 2SilverSeahorses

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    It's a view I suppose...

    Some might say Loic Remy's just made a mug out of QPR. It all depends what side of the fence you're sitting on and your philosophy on how football should be run.

    Make up your mind in the summer eh?
     
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    Guessing this guy's not being serious.

    Surely he'd not be slinging mud knowing his current manager who is lavishing huge wages on players has been at the helm of 3 clubs that have been bankrupted by huge wage bills. All knocked up by him, after he's jumped ship once they've gone down though...
     
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  6. Stamford Brook R

    Stamford Brook R Well-Known Member

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    FYI Albert's Chip Shop I have always had a lot of time for NUFC fans and hope we both stay up. SJP always has a great atmosphere. Ashley is awful and you don't deserve it. You're one of the only clubs who don't have any plastics.
     
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    You have 5 stars from me mate! sometimes a set of eyes from outside the club can see more clearly and I agree with everything you have said.
     
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    NMG might disagree.
     
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    A piss poor attempt at grand wummery.
     
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  10. Katmandu

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    its not he means well i tell you.
     
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  11. 2SilverSeahorses

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    QPR's Tony Fernandes:
    "Football needs to change. There are clubs out there who are spending money that if they were in a real business they could not afford. That inflates it for everybody. For the sake of football, proper business sense has to be made."

    QPR's Harry Redknapp:
    "I fined a player last week and he was earning more than any player earned at Tottenham. You shouldn't be paying massive wages when you've got a stadium that holds 18,000 people."

    Both pretty reasoned, sensible opinions on how to run English football. Most would agree if they don't want the whole thing to go tits up.

    I can tell you who would definitely be nodding in agreement – Mike Ashley.

    The only difference with our owner, whether you like him or not is he has the courage to stick to his convictions. He certainly doesn't say one thing and do another!

    So why the sudden change of heart at QPR?
     
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    They git rid oif Dyers wage and Nelsons
     
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  13. Stamford Brook R

    Stamford Brook R Well-Known Member

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    Tony has to go all out for survival - his only mistake IMO was getting in Hughes as manager! During Hughes' reign we played the worst football I've seen in 23 years of supporting Q.P.R.! It's a big gamble and sometimes you win some or you lose some.

    Whose idea was it to rename SJP to the Sports Direct Arena?
     
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    Mike Ashley ! thanks to the good grace of god our new sponsors didnt decide to rename it the WONGA ARENA so its ST JAMES AGAIN.

    Christ can you imagine the field people would have had if it was the Wonga arena

    I mean the stadium name is all we have left!!! the **** will stop at nothing I tell you!! in afew years we will be sports direct united and will play in red and blue strips.
     
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    So he's basically going 'all in', throwing the gambling chips across the table to stay in the Premier League – despite the wider implications for your club if it 'does a Pompey'.

    It's much easier to get promoted again than it is to see a cherished football club dissolved. These owners are the temporary custodians remember, they don't need to stay and pick up the pieces.

    What does the SJP name change have to do with anything? It only underlines my original point. A businessman owner making unpopular business decisions to potentially maximise revenue.
    We might not like the approach but that's a separate debate about how commercialism overrides tradition in modern English football.

    I don't like Wonga as a company but I'd rather earn their sponsor money next season than be supported by the whim of a suger daddy. And not signing Loic Remy ain't gonna change that...
     
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    Say what you like about him, but he's kept us afloat which is more than Freddy Shepherd would have done.
     
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    Spot on. But there's rarely any acknowledgement of that though is there?

    I suspect he's done more than we'll ever know, because he never talks. Give him the grace to call him consistent – no explanation for unpopular decisions and no "Thank you that was me" when we have signed players etc, been promoted or qualified for Europe.

    It's fine to criticise the regime but it's baseless if you're not measured and fair about it...
     
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    I don't care what he's done for the club as a business it's meaningless! he's loaned the club money so ultimately we still owe the money when he's left. It's not like he's doing all of it for free. The fact is we just want to see value for money on the pitch and for me it's not there. I wouldn't buy tickets for my family to go to a concert if the singers were ****. On top of that if the person selling the tickets had his customer service skills I'd punch him in the mouth.
     
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  19. 2SilverSeahorses

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    Oh yeah I forgot that NUFC was a registered charity – and I genuinely thought Mike Ashley would right off the club's debt out of the goodness of his heart.

    He has no emotive interest in NUFC, he wants to run the club as a sustainable business. I sense you don't like that, but it's the truth.

    He does not support Newcastle as a football team and nor does he crave any success beyond that which is required to sustain his investment. We have NEVER been mislead or lied to regarding those intentions, they are very brazen about it.

    But if anyone seriously believes that a successful guy like Mike Ashley would buy a football club in the belief that vast profit could be made OR to ruin it 'for ****s and giggles' is frankly only deluding themselves...
     
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  20. Stamford Brook R

    Stamford Brook R Well-Known Member

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    Before we had Tony, we had Paladini - far worse than Freddy!
     
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