23rd Precinct If you like dance music, Rub-a-dub in St Enoch's square will be there as long as folk use decks
23rd Precinct, that's it I've got a memory like one of those things you use to get lumps out of flour, cant remember stainless steel thingy with lots of perforations..................a mesh is it?
Poor old HMV, writing has been on the wall for a while now. I used to get stuff from the big store in Oxford Street because they had massive departments for a whole host of musical tastes, however niche your own particular musican choices were 9 times out of 10 you could pick it up or at least find someone who knew what you were talking about to get it ordered in. Then along comes 'tinternet and it all changed. You can get practically everything from Amazon (if you want to pay) and any number of download sites if you want to get it for nish. There must be a direct correlation between pirate downloads and the scandalous cost of live music. What the bands lose in loss of income through a lack of legit sales they seem to make up by charging a King's ransom for gig tickets. Who's next on the high street to go? I fear for the likes of Next, River Island etc. The bargain clothing market is booming with Primark and top end sales with designer stuff is still riding the storm but the middle priced stores look vulnerable. Soon be nothing but £1 shops, betting shops and Greggs.
Ah, but GR, the way money is made out of live music has totally changed. When I was a teenager (90s), tickets for gigs at King Tut's were usually £3-£7 Tours were run at a loss, knowingly. The income from a tour came from associated merchandise sales at the gigs and the upturn in record sales leading up to it (if somebody was missing an album before they saw a band live, they'd probably buy it before the gig). The tours themselves were run at a loss. Now, tours are the most profitable bit outside advertising. The price has gone up, but then, more than half of the audience won't have parted with a brass farthing to hear the recorded music in the first place. Fair enough if you ask me
And lots of Wetherspoon pubs....... Totally agree about the downloading and links to the price of concert tickets. People moan about football tickets but tickets for gigs now are extortionate as well. Thankfully I'm past going to gigs and now sit at home listening to my ancient collection and banging on about how fantastic music was in those days compared to the current rubbish.
It sticks in the craw when a band I love to see wants £50 when I used to watch them back in the day for a fiver! The Cult cost me £48 plus booking fee last year. Gone are the days when you could roll up to Rough Trade Records and get tickets for face value or no more than a quid on top. Sadly gone are the days when some of the best music venues were still going. No more Hammersmith Palais, The Clarendon, The Marquee etc.
Someone from Bristol talking about evolution ffs. ***** mutant spazzy land that makes Edinburgh look like it's living in modern times.
...and Tescos and all other supermarkets,these have contributed hugely to the demise of the record shop.
I think the Hope and Anchor's gone but dunno about the Nashville. My favourite venue is definitely the Town and Country club (now the Forum) in Kentish Town. Saw some brilliant bands there over the years
True. And books too. ****s were purposefully selling the likes of the Harry Potter ****e at a loss just to get customers in their stores rather than in local bookshops. And don't get me started on people who buy electrical goods like tellies, washing machines etc. from supermarkets
Now you're talking,Town and Country good times.Do you remember when Vince Power ran nearly every venue in London and was called the MurphiaI heard he ran into bother,is he still involved?
You're so upper middle class you should be a conservative. I hate to imagine what bothers some of you lot if you get pissed off at people shopping online.
The Hope and Anchor is still around I think but the Nashville is now The Three Famous Kings and is a normal pub with little in the way of live music. Also gone - The Rainbow (ages ago though), The George Robey, Gossips, The Lost Theatre, The Astoria etc plus a bunch of smaller pubs and clubs. We still have The Brixton Academy, The Forum (formerly the Town and Country Club) Hammersmith Odeon (I refuse to call it the Apollo) etc but many of the best venues bit the dust years ago.
