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Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United Match History 1899-2013

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    Tottenham Hotspur host Manchester United at White Hart Lane on Sunday 20th January 2013 (KO 16:00) in the 23rd round of matches in the 2012-13 season.

    Spurs come into the match in 4th place on 40 points with United in first place on 55 points.

    It will be the 183rd meeting between the two clubs who were the "glamour teams" of the 1960s.

    Tottenham Hotspur's first meeting with Manchester United came in the old 1st round (today's 3rd round) of the FA Cup in January 1899 when United were known as Newton Heath. The match was drawn 1-1 at Northumberland Park, but Spurs won the replay 5-3 at Bank Street in Clayton, Manchester.

    A decade later the two clubs met for the first time in a Football League match with United drawing 2-2 at White Hart Lane in the First Division.

    The reverse fixture at Old Trafford was easilly won by United 5-0.

    Tottenham's first League win over United came in November 1911 2-1 at Old Trafford.

    Both clubs met for four seasons in the Second Division during the 1930s.

    Since the start of football after WW2, all League meetings have taken place in the Top Flight of the English League system.

    In 1952, both clubs toured North America and played two exhibition matches with Spurs winning 5-0 in Toronto, Canada and 7-1 in New York, USA.

    The clubs were drawn together in the 1963-64 European Cup Winners' Cup with Spurs winning 2-0 at the Lane and United winning 4-1 at Old Trafford.

    Old Trafford was the venue for the 1967 FA Charity Shield with League Champions United and FA Cup Winners Spurs drawing 3-3 in a game most remembered for goalkeeper Pat Jennings' long-range goal. The Charity Shield was shared.

    August 1979 saw the clubs meet for the first time in the Football League Cup and Glenn Hoddle's magnificent volly was the winning goal in a 2-1 Spurs victory at White Hart Lane. United went on to win the second leg at Old Trafford 3-1.

    In June 1983, the clubs played two matches in Swaziland, Southern Africa, resulting in a win each. Prior to this season, Spurs last win at Old Trafford came in December 1989 thanks to a Gary Lineker goal.

    The clubs have only ever met in one Domestic Cup Final - the 2009 Football League (Carling) Cup Final at Wembley, which ended in a 0-0 draw after extra time. United won the subsequent penalty shoot-out.

    Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur were founder members of the Premier League in 1992-93 and are two of the seven clubs who have been ever-present up to the 2012-13 season - Arsenal, Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton and Liverpool being the other five.

    The fixtures during season 2010-11 saw United win 2-0 at Old Trafford in October while the reverse match at White Hart Lane ended in a 0-0 draw.

    2010-11 was the first season when both Manchester United and Tottenham Hotspur competed together in the UEFA Champions League. Both clubs won their respective Group Stages and progressed to the Knock-Out Phase. Spurs eventually went out to Real Madrid in the Quarter Finals while Manchester United made it to the Final, only to lose to Barcelona.

    The away fixture at Old Trafford last season in August resulted in a 3-0 win for United with goals from Danny Welbeck, who headed in Tom Cleverley's cross just after 60 minutes and he then produced a wonderful instinctive flick to set up a second for Anderson. Wayne Rooney scored with a pinpoint late header from Ryan Giggs's centre.

    The game at White Hart Lane in March 2012 was won by United 3-1. Wayne Rooney scored on the stroke of half-time to put the visitors ahead at the break. Further goals were added with a brace from Ashely Young before Jermain Defoe got one back for Spurs with three minutes remaining.

    This season's earlier fixture at Old Trafford resulted in an historic 3-2 win for Tottenham - their first in the League at Old Trafford in 23 years. Jan Vertonghen's second minute strike was deflected-in off Jonny Evans and Gareth Bale added a second goal after 32 minutes. United hit back through Luis Nani after 51 minutes but Spurs restored their two goal cushion a minute later with a Clint Dempsey goal. Shinji Kagawa scored United's second goal a minute later and Spurs survived the pressure for a United equaliser to come away with three very well earned points.

    Former Manchester United defender Zeki Fryers joined Spurs in January 2013 from Standard Liege in Belgium.

    Overall, United have a very good record over Spurs with 86 wins to 50 with 46 of the 182 matches played so far drawn.

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    Tottenham Hotspur v Manchester United Complete Match History 1899 to 2013

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    They Played for Spurs & United....

    Jamie Attwell
    David Beckham (United player, Spurs trainee)
    Dimitar Berbatov
    Bill Berry
    Alan Brazil
    Jimmy Brown
    Fraizer Campbell
    Michael Carrick
    Garth Crooks
    Harry Erentz
    Quinton Fortune
    Zeki Fryers
    Terry Gibson

    Tommy Gipps
    Greoge Graham (United player, Spurs manager)
    Jack Hall
    Stewart Houston (United player, Spurs asst. manager)
    David Gwilan Jones
    Joe Jordan (United player, Spurs coach)
    Cyril Knowles
    Chris McGrath
    James McNaught
    Fred Milnes
    Louis Saha
    Teddy Sheringham


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    Tottenham Hotspur Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2012-13

    Manchester United Premier League Player's Squad Numbers 1993-94 to 2012-13

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  2. Roo

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    cheers again 6061. Great thread as usual. (you should have left off the premier league meetings from the stats table. probably best not to talk about that! <laugh>)

    I did not know Quinton Fortune played for us!!
     
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  3. THFC6061

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    Yes, he was at Forest School in Wanstead and played for our youth teams.

    But Spurs were unable to secure a work permit for him, so he went back to South Africa.
     
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  4. PleaseNotPoll

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    I haven't said this in a while, but these match threads are ridiculously good.
    Keep it up, THFC6061. <applause>
     
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  5. notsosmartspur

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    Great pic of Berb at full pelt!

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  6. District Line

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    Great work as usual THFC6061. Quite looking forward to this game, it'll be a cracking Super Sunday. None of this 1st v 8th being dubbed as the biggest game nonsense. This Super Sunday will be 4 of the 5 best teams in England going at it.

    United could probably afford to drop points but massive game for Spurs to keep the momentum going.

    I see a high scoring draw or Spurs win. 2-2 or 3-2, depends on the line ups.
     
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  7. Roo

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    I concur PNP. We're very lucky.

    I was reading Arsenals match thread for the city game. - I stopped reading after page 1 as pathetic arguments had already started and not 1 person even had the decency to thank SJW10 for his match thread. - (which a lot of effort had gone into, very much like THFC6061's.)

    Shocking.


    Anyway, fingers crossed on this one. Andre has said that he expects sandro to be back in contention. Just a knock, not ligament damage. Phew!
     
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  8. The Mighty Thor

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    If the result at O/T is anything to go by it'll be one hell of a close match and with Utd wanting revenge it'll be a ding dong battle. We've broken the Utd jinx now so a win by one goal wouldn't surprise me. We were hanging on at the end at O/T and Utd looked a bit vulnerable yesterday but it was a Lancashire derby between two hated enemies and anything can happen in those. My concern is our striking power.
     
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  9. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    Alan Brazil? I thought it was Gary Doherty!

    They certainly don't make them like Alan anymore, thank ****...

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  10. THFC6061

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    ^^^

    I still have that shirt, although sadly it stopped fitting me a good decade ago.
     
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  11. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    What's the writing it has around the badge?
     
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    Centenary Anniversary 1882-1982...

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    ...they're going for about £200 these days, if you can find one.
     
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  13. No Kane No Gain

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    Full of knowledge as always. £200 for a second hand shirt? I'd rather wait for the next centenary kit :D
     
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  14. littleDinosaurLuke

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    Liverpool's fightback when Utd fell asleep, having cruised to a 2-0 lead, could spell bad news for Spurs. SAF won't want any repeat of this sort of complacency. Utd were charitable enough v Spurs in the first 30 mins at OT.
     
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  15. SpursDisciple

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    It wasn't charity, you were outplayed for the first 30 mins. Not a lot Ferguson can do about Bale being quicker than Ferdinand. A very arrogant post Luke, sometimes it is not just about whether Utd play well or not, but what the opposition bring as well.
     
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  16. No Kane No Gain

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    You mean the whole first 45 minutes? You were no more charitable in the first half than we were to you guys letting you have the ball in the second half.

    I wopuldn't think you'll be at your best all game against us, Fergie will be fielding a lot of the same players against West Ham so tiredness could kick in.
     
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  17. littleDinosaurLuke

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    No arrogance, SD. I fully expect you to give us a game. Just don't expect the slackness which Liverpool nearly exploited yesterday or that we'll wait until the second half to start playing. Wins at Chelsea and City this season have been founded on Utd starting quickly and taking the game to the home team.
     
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    The thing is Roo, THFC6061 posts a duplicate on the board of whatever side we happen to be playing against.
    They're almost always warmly received and the odd occasion when they're not is normally because the board is dead.
    Everyone overlooking SJW10's efforts is just lazy, complacent and a bit ignorant. I think I'll go and thank him... <whistle>

    Fixed. <ok>
     
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  19. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Man how I'd love to do the double over Utd!

    Gonna be a tough game (state the obvious SoS!), I do genuinely believe we can get 3 points though. Utd always seem to grind out results (especially at WHL!!!) but quality wise, they just don't seem as fierce and talented as they once were. De Gea is a liability and Rio and Vidic are just a tap away from a 6 week injury! Cleverly is massively overrated in my opinion and hopefully Sandro (AVB reckons he could be fit) and Moussa should win the CM battle if on top form. Valencia will cause problems and this game, we'll need a left footed LB to deal with him. Obviously van Persie will be the one to watch though, it doesn't really matter who we have at the back we just need to pray he has an off game and our defence and Hugo are in top form.

    With Ade off to the AFCON, I'm hoping for 4-5-1 with:

    Lloris,
    Naughton, Dawson, Vertonghen, Ekotto
    Sandro, Dembele
    Lennon, Dempsey, Bale
    Defoe

    Naughton has been far better than Walker in my opinion and despite a little upturn in performances from Walker, he was back to his dodgy self vs QPR and was lucky SWP didn't get a proper shot off after being skinned. Where as I felt Naughton dealt with Mackie (and Taarabt at times) really well, while yet again being on his weaker side. If Benny's fit enough I'd love him back in the team, huge fan of his and his link up play with Bale is something we'd need to cause Utd problems plus as I mentioned, against Valencia, it'll be too risky playing Naughton there I reckon due to Valencia's pace and crossing ability so I think having a left footer will be crucial.

    Tight game but think we really could nick this 1-0/ 2-1.

    COYS!
     
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    hes mostly underated by rival fans really but if he makes a mistake he gets ripped apart while the "England saviour" Wilshere doesnt get any stick at all.
     
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