it's funny because by his logic if Chelsea were only supported by local supporters... they'd be nothing.... Chelsea are a team based in London where there are 14 other professional teams 57.7% of the population in London are English (Non English people in London would support their local teams form their original location so they do not count) The population of English people living in London is estimated 4.4 million The Area London is 659 square miles This means that there is on average 6676 English people per mile living in London Stamford bridge has a square around it of football stadiums. I'm going to use half the square mileage of this square for people that live more local to Chelsea's ground (the other half for the other team's fans. Also, As Chelsea is not directly in the middle and the square is not equilateral I'm going to use the largest sides because I'm nice. Chelsea's allocation is 11.2 miles. This means that by my calculations Chelsea would only have 74,771 fans and that's if 100% of people liked football. If Chelsea had to survive with 74,771 fans they certainly wouldn't have "100 years of history"
They even have that poster who's name is Chelsea-10 years of history. I don't doubt a lot of the non English people in London are chav and Arsenal fans though.
I love it when WUM's are dealt with, esepcially with the use of facts, stats and logic. Well done Bozz
Yeah it does amaze me that any club would show more loyalty to a convicted peado like Graham Rix than to guys like Bobby and Franky but I guess that's the chavs for you.
Yeah well done Bozz Bit of a difference supporting a London team when you're from London or the home counties to supporting Liverpool from Colchester. But it must be frustrating being a glory hunter when the glory days are a fading memory. Man United will have you if you ask nicely and buy a shirt every now and then.
Imagine how football would be if you could only support your local team. It wouldn't work. Your team wouldn't survive. Our team wouldn't survive. No team would be able to compete. Deal with it
But then Stamford Bridge would go back to being half empty every week Got to love chavs arguing about plastic fans and trophy hauls brilliant.
Just pointing out the irony of a Colchester based Liverpool fan suggesting Chelsea fans are glory hunters. If the irony is lost on you, Google it dear.
No they wouldn't. It would drive more people away from football in to other sports. People begin liking clubs from other parts of the country because of either the players they have or the trophies they are winning. If at 4 years old my dad showed me a list of every football team in the country and said "pick one" I'd have probably picked Kidderminster Harriers because their name sounds cool. You find a player you like (in my case it was Ian Rush) through watching him I began to like other Liverpool players as players come and go you don't seem to care as the other players you like are still there, your love for the players and the way they play evolves and grows to the club as the club is bigger than the players. Obviously I had other influences like my dad, uncles and grandparents but for me at that time Ian Rush was the only reason I watched Liverpool (retrospectively I can look back and say that i'd have never have watched him as much had my family supported someone like Crystal Palace) If people were forced to support their local clubs only (which is a completely backward concept by the way.) then there would be no chemistry with the club, there are no heroes (OK, I liked Mark Kinsella) and there would be no genuine love for the club so i'd have lost interest and taken up something I could connect with - probably Boxing or Athletics. I bet Colchester would rather the 5,000 die hards that go to their ground (half filling it) every week singing their hearts out then a full capacity ground with no atmosphere as the football fans would have no connection to the club. you can't help who you fall in love with but it's why you fall in love with the club which sets you apart. Did you fall in love with the club because you admire a player/players or did you fall in love with the club because they were winning things at the time. Those that go round rubbing peoples faces in their clubs recent successes are obviously only interested in the trophies.
Why is there any irony there? Are you suggesting any "glory hunting supporter" would pick Liverpool these days? I take it you don't get to The Bridge much chelsea - 10 years of history. Let's put it this way, when you have a run of seasons like we've had recently your "fans" will disappear quicker than one of your managers
No not these days but then I presume your mod from Colchester is older than about 10. Most of Liverpool's glory hunting fan base was picked up in the 70's and 80's. Given we have traditionally been one of the best supported clubs in the country, your argument is somewhat weak by the way. I believe we hold the biggest ever attendance record and have had massive crowds over the years. We also had some bleak attendances in the 80's as did many clubs at the time. This all despite being largely under achievers up until the mid-90's. Don't let facts get in the way.
A fair and well put together response but ultimately just a case of supporting a team because they were good at the time. That's fine but then don't have a dig at other clubs who are picking up support now on the back of recent success. Liverpool's great support now is ultimately because they were great for 2 decades. I didn't get the luxury of picking my team and had to watch our horror years in the 80s thanks to my Father
In the 70's and 80's our support was almost all local, it was pay at the turnstiles on the day for most of that time. Are you suggesting that supporting your local team is 'glory hunting'?
That's exactly my point though isn't it? Good attendances only when doing well. Those fans drift off when the going gets tough. As opposed to a guy like Bozz who living in Colchester could go support someone else but doesn't despite our under achieving for twenty years. I won't deny there are plenty of fans at Anfield who are "tourist fans" as there are at every big clubs ground week in week out. The difference is if those fans weren't at Anfield we'd still sell out to local people as we always do. Can you honestly say Stamford Bridge will be the same when Chelsea start to slip down the league season after season? Nope, it will be back to the '80s in terms of attendance figures.
No, you've missed the point. One period of bad attendances (like many clubs in the 80's) aside, we've traditionally been one of the best supported clubs in the country despite fairly poor success on the pitch (up until the mid 90's). If Chelsea slip down the league as you suggest (hope) I suspect ticket prices etc will have to be adjusted and you'd start to get some of the older support returning who have been priced out to a large extent. But this aint about comparing dick sizes, it's about irony.
The same could be asked of you. Why aren't you a Fulham fan - btw, I'm being completely ignorant of where in London you live, it's quite possible that you actually live on Holmead Road which would make my comment completely invalid
So by your warped logic it's ok for people in the 'home counties' to support Chelsea but it's not ok for someone from Birkenhead to support Liverpool/Everton, the one eyed city is only 4 or 5 miles from Anfield or Goodison.
