trying to gain an unfair advantage has happened for as long as any of us can remember,he wasn't cheating but why should he own up to something like that when as i have pointed out a lot of defenders handball all the time in the area and don't go running to the ref saying i hand balled ref and it should be a penalty, that's gaining an unfair advantage as well,or Henry against the Irish he should have owned up, so why isnt a big issue made out of that? isnt that as the media like to sensationalize it cheating as well? happens every frigging week. and shows how pathetic, or they don't watch any football, that the media have made an issue out of him kissing his hand, thats a disgrace, and i hope something can be done about it, but i dont know enough about the law to know if anything can be. the real joke in this as they have always been, is the cowardly FA and the crap refs that all clubs have to put up with.
The problem is you know that will never happen. You mention Klose and I remember Fowler telling the ref Seaman hadn't taken him down, Di Canio picking the ball up etc but those things didn't lead to a landslide of honesty did they. They are one offs and that will never change. At the end of the day Suarez gets **** week in week out for trying to influence referees and now he's getting **** for not doing it Poor lad can't win.
We'll all be raging In fairness though if that had happened to us yesterday I'd be raging with the blind linesman not the player who had done it (unless it's a mank in which case he'll be cheating scum ).
yes sorry astroturfnaut, didnt mean it the way it probably sounded, meant that none of us would have complained if it was disallowed. silly rules now days, intent, deliberate, and all that crap, open to interpretation, why not as in the old days is it not just handball, freekick, get on with the game, none of this if it wasn't deliberate or no intent so it stands crap, which obviously was to our advantage, but the old ways no ifs buts ****ing maybes it was handball whether any intent or deliberate or accidental, so free kick, simple, why have we complicated the game for no reason. Sturridges yellow card yesterday shows the way our game is going.
I think it's ridiculous the amount of media attention this is getting. a) It was not intentional - look at the speed and distance of the rebound. There is no way Suarez could have got his hand out of the way AND there is no way he could have put his hand in the way of the ball. b) Suarez should have owned up? Behave. Perhaps defenders should own up for fouling players and getting away with it? Perhaps players should own up when they win a corner or throw in when it wasn't? In a perfect world - everyone should be honest. But what winds me up is that not owning up to a wrong decision is NOW a massive thing all of a sudden since Suarez was involved ... c) The Mirror's article was embarrassing. Rather than going with Rodger's quote or Paul Cox's where they both do not blame Suarez, they decide to take the quote of the bimbo of a MD where she says they were robbed. d) This one incident overshadows what was a poor performance by us and a heroic performance by Mansfield.
Seen 2 papers saying it was accidental and pointing out that he always kisses his arm both are being surprisingly fair about the incident. Lets not let any of that spoil a good internet war on Suarez though. At the end of the day it was an obvious handball so the coaches need to spend a bit more time with him and show him how to be a bit more sneaky about it. Handball training is needed lets get the whole squad involved.
jenners04. I am not disputing that players cheat,but that doesn't make it right. Many people do dishonest things. Are you motivated to commit a crime simply because others do? I seem to remember Henry came in for a considerable amount of criticism for his hand ball goal. I hate cheats,and to win via cheating is a very hollow victory. It's called integrity,and you either have it,or you don't,and this "well others do it so it's O.K." argument simply doesn't wash with me. Clearly you are comfortable with your stance,and I guess that's up to you. I don't know about his "hand kissing",unless he is showing the World how much he loves himself. The current level of refereeing is constantly under attack. However,fans only attack refereees when a decision goes against their team. When their team benefits from a wrong decision,silence descends. All very predictable,and very pathetic.
Haven't FSG got some involvement with LeBron James? We could get him over to do some slam dunk training
No need for Suarez to own up as that is the officials job. However to me the officials shouldn't have had to make a decision as Suarez shouldn't have handled in the first place. If it was accidental handball the only ones to blame are the officials but it looks deliverate to me in which case it's cheating. The fact it was against a small club like Mansfield makes it even more shameful.
I don't know about his "hand kissing",unless he is showing the World how much he loves himself. your right you don't know, so not sure why you felt the need to comment about it, esp making out he loves himself, see that's the type of attitude we are up against. he has a tat of his daughter name i believe on his wrist, and he does the same celebration EVERYTIME he scores. the current level of refereeing is shiite thats why.
I understand your point re. players being more honest. But what annoys me is that there are a lot of incidents where other players have the opportunity to be honest but aren't, yet nothing is ever said about that. As soon as Suarez is involved, let's all make a song and dance about it. Suarez kisses his wedding finger for his wife, and he kisses his tattoo on his wrist for his daughter. He does it for all of his goals - he's scored around 18 so far this season so you can't have missed them all.
Not sure how it was deliberate? Did you see the speed at which the ball hit his hand? Did you also notice the distance between the keeper and Suarez? Did you notice that Suarez didn't actually move his hand before the ball hit it? I have said it before - there was no time for him to a) deliberately move his hand into position to handle, and b) move his hand out of the way in time.
He kisses his wrist after every goal he scores because his daughters name is tattooed on it. As for the referee comment well that's a bit harsh as the majority of us have said we couldn't have complained if he'd given a free kick to Mansfield. So for once we get a decision in our favour. We've had nothing but ****ty decisions against us all season so why should we cry about the first one that's gone for us in five months? Seriously?
Pistolero. You mention three instances of sporting behaviour,and it's a real shame that others cannot go down that road. Perhaps supporters could take a lead,and demand better behaviour from their team. But I won't hold my breath on that happening either. Too many people have adopted the win at all costs mentality,but I haven't. Suarez,rightly or wrongly,has acquired a reputation,and sad to say he is now stuck with that. The fair name of Liverpool F.C. will continue to be tarnished by that image. One thing is for sure,he's not a "poor lad".
How are you going on about cheating, your captain cant even keep his hands out of his best friends wives knickers.Moral highground I fully expect from this moment forward, EVERY SINGLE TIME, a foul,free kick,corner, penalty is given incorrectly for the player involved to say to refereee , " I say old chap, you got that call wrong, that decision you should give in favour of the opposition, not our side",Cos this is what your teams an fans do ALL THE TIME, f**kin hypocrites
You're such a bellend chelsea - 10 years of history Do rules apply differently because of who a team is playing? What a stupid thing to suggest. I think the key to your quote is in the words "it looks deliverate to me" (I'm presuming you meant deliberate). Well it looked deliberate to you because you're a biased tool. Did you give Drogba so much **** when he cheated your lot to a European Cup Final? No but then I suppose that was fine because Barca aren't a non league club
jenner04. Whatever happened to the famous Liverpool sense of humour? Perhaps it's a myth. My "hand kissing" comment was a tongue in cheek one,and not meant in a malicious way. It may come as a surprise but I don't make a habit of watching Liverpool play,so that was the first time I had ever seen him kiss his wrist. The fact that he does it as a token of love for his child is very touching,and I like him a little bit for that. Judging by the posts on this thread there is a great deal of paranoia in evidence re Suarez,and other people's reaction to him.
The Brazilian ladies beach volleyball team are on their way to help us out. Suarez spikes it for Gerraaaaard! What a goal, take a bow son.
Jimmy Squarefoot. I say a lot about honesty in sport,and elsewhere,but I could well be in a minority. Suarez does seem to invoke people's ire,and there must be reasons for that. With regards his ring kissing,well,I wasn't aware that he did it after every goal he scores. I don't actually have any interest in watching Liverpool,they are not my team,so "I have missed them all". The Mansfield game was the first time I have seen them this season.
