You think you'd fill a 35k ground? Your attendances now are barely suggestive of 30k+ crowds when your cup final team aren't in town. I don't think your club is very fortunate with where you can draw support from. You have Hull, and to an extent East Yorkshire which has no other proper cities in it, and that's it. Our city and our club, but admittedly not our team. Empirically speaking, Hull is one of the scrounger capitals of the country. Lots of Leeds fans do come from ****ty areas but if they're in a manual job or unemployed they can't afford to come to games. A) they didn't have the same lalalala, mimicking style of other attempts at ultras, B) they're disbanded so my point stands. I said we don't have ultras, not we never had them. Leeds can't generate an atmosphere because our fans are priced out, pissed off and stewarded to submission. If they've gone to games in the third division after thinking of us as a top-of-the-top-flight sort of club, I'm hardly going to call them a plastic or a gloryhunter, nor is anyone else in their right mind. And yes, I'd rather we did the traditional arm-raising during WACCOE rather than scarf-twirling which comes with the sped-up, clappy, modern version of it, but I think it still looks good when most of the stand are doing it. Why, did the specific people on that bus brick Hull fans? A man with sense. Maybe we should all wear peacock hats to future away games to show off our credentials as fans that really go beyond the everyday spectator. I think you have it the wrong way round. The Savile songs started in response to Wednesday fans singing about him shagging our mums and being one of our own, so we just threw it back at them. Every single set of opposition fans I've seen Leeds against since then have sung it, and we've sung it back. Better than just standing there going 'oh, we're so ashamed of ourselves having a city in which he was born'. I laughed and applauded when I heard that, good effort. Best Biggest Look them up. Different things. When our club charges the same prices and has policies as good as yours, you'll have a point.
To be honest EG, we got alot of Savile chants just for being a Yorkshire club. Burnley fans sang it quite a bit when they beat us. We turned it around and sang "Jimmy Savile is Dean Marney's dad". Another decent song yesterday was "Proschwitz's grandad bombed Leeds". It's usually his grandad bombed Hull for some reason.
Having descended to the depths of reading the Leeds Utd forum, I am genuinely concerned that some of the posters actually believe that their rantings are true. They really believe that their team plays fair, attractive football, and that they have a reputation which causes Refs to award red and yellows without justification. Regarding the 'elbow incident', did anyone actually see what happened? All I saw was Aluko bring the blood on Browns face to the Refs attention. There was absolutely no protest from any one else!!!
A part of me wanted Leeds to win yesterday as I've begun to hope you start using a 'pecked by the peacocks' celebration, where you all put your hands behind your back and rock your heads to-and-fro like a bird attacking a small child. Sounds a lot better than 'mauled by the tigers' anyway...
Everton did a version of it when they came to the KC and beat us in the league cup a few years ago. Tonked by the Toffees i think it was. Good banter. The only set of fans i've seen do a version.
Another win against a poor team, thats all I saw yesterday as. That it was against Leeds didn't make a difference, we need to turn up for the remaining home games in these numbers and back the team there are much bigger fish to fry.
You think you'd fill a 35k ground? Your attendances now are barely suggestive of 30k+ crowds when your cup final team aren't in town. I don't think your club is very fortunate with where you can draw support from. You have Hull, and to an extent East Yorkshire which has no other proper cities in it, and that's it. We wouldn't fill it at today's prices (would anybody?) but our owner has made noises about lowering admission prices substantially, so given decent a decent level of football we would fill it. Don't forget we are talking about Hull City here- the team that holds the attendance record of over 50 000 for Div 3 (N) and who could pull over 20K for League 2 games. Leeds don't always manage 20 k at this level, despite it being the cosmopolitan boom town of the north Empirically speaking, Hull is one of the scrounger capitals of the country. Lots of Leeds fans do come from ****ty areas but if they're in a manual job or unemployed they can't afford to come to games. Or perhaps that there are fewer jobs available in Hull, necessitating a higher jobless figure? I must say you seem to have a cavalier attitude about these things, about '****ty areas' and 'manual jobs'- do you know any plumbers? A) they didn't have the same lalalala, mimicking style of other attempts at ultras, B) they're disbanded so my point stands. I said we don't have ultras, not we never had them. Leeds can't generate an atmosphere because our fans are priced out, pissed off and stewarded to submission. And ours aren't? If they've gone to games in the third division after thinking of us as a top-of-the-top-flight sort of club, I'm hardly going to call them a plastic or a gloryhunter, nor is anyone else in their right mind. And yes, I'd rather we did the traditional arm-raising during WACCOE rather than scarf-twirling which comes with the sped-up, clappy, modern version of it, but I think it still looks good when most of the stand are doing it. Try 15 years in Leagues One and Two and see how 'loyal' your lot are. It's hilarious the way all your armchair fans turn out when you play Chelsea or Arsenal though- a proper small club mindset, coming to gawp at the big club visitors. Why, did the specific people on that bus brick Hull fans? I don't know but I'm sure many of them revel in Leeds 'bad boy' image.... When our club charges the same prices and has policies as good as yours, you'll have a point. Wages, houseprices and prosperity are generally higher in Leeds than Hull (as of course is the population level). Like for like, we are easily ahead on gates and support. .
Best or biggest, I know which I'd rather be. You don't win things for being the biggest, you only have to look at yourselves, Forest and Liverpool to see that.
quite right. we have to be ruthless and pick up points against the weaker teams to mitigate any we drop against the better teams.
That's true. Apart from the way they play, the most embarrassing thing about Leeds is the massive excitement they always get about drawing big teams in the cup, which massively conflicts the picture they're always painting about 'belonging' in the top flight. All the part-time fans coming back to see them play Man United or Chelsea, the convenient 'boycotts' obviously not affecting those particular games, just all the league games.
Like the 'leeds' fans from Hull and district who only see TWS once a season at the KC trying to be invisible before and after the game. Then the shame of them in the away end pretending to be proper leeds fans. That's funny if not a bit sad.
