I am desperately trying to understand the way Colin thinks. His post match interview was very confusing in the fact that he opened with saying Hull only play one striker up front, yet he played THREE centre-backs which basically surrendered the midfield to Hull and resulted in Leeds being swamped. Our formation made it all too easy for Hull, giving them space and numbers in front of our defenders and a massive hiding would not have been out of place. Then there is the "resting" of Diouf, Thomas and Becchio. WTF? This was a BIG match, and needed the best you've got. Was this Warnock's way of showing Haigh that we need investment? Was he saying that this is how good we are without our best players? It is clear we need at least four QUALITY players added to our squad, and it may be that Warnock isn't happy with the cash he has been promised and he's pushing for more. Chris Wood looks as if he's going to Leicester because they are offering higher wages than Leeds can afford, so there's a sign already regarding cash available.
I wouldn't expect us to be able to match Leicester and I wouldn't want to. They've been throwing silly money around for the past 2 years and it's got them nowhere, they should really be challenging for top 2 but are falling away at an alarming rate. The changes that need to be made to make us promotion contenders aren't going to happen in the January window, regardless of how much money we've got. Warnock's built a team that is borderline good enough to make the playoffs at best and mid table at worst - especially when he's so clearly tactically inept. Warnock is the first change I'd make as he's not young enough to be here for a while, he's built a team (granted, on a budget) that's not going to be good enough to stay in the Premier League without major changes if its even good enough to get there. The whole strategy at Leeds has been a negative one for a while, Warnock's team building is a remnant of that and he needs to go. Ownership has changed, so that's plugged the holes in the bucket. Now it's time to empty all the sludge out of the bottom of it and fill it up with good, clean water.
Its a though he can't be bothered any more, if he did he would be a little more realistic and maybe put Becchio up front with Ross like a Sheringham type role behind striker infront of midfield. End of the day he picks team and motivates them and seems they were not motivated and had no desire or direction similar to how Warnock is thinking possibly?
Warnock needs to be sacked off asap. He's a short term solution and now we've got new owners we need long term solutions. He's doing terribly, time to get rid and get somebody in that has a clue.
Trouble is who would we get? if he goes im sure lots will say Gus but, im usre he is tied womn well contractually and possibly like living down south. They need to target a new manager anyway to replace Warnock anyway. Maybe they have? and have told Warnock and he does't approve. Its obvious things are going on behind the scene's.
I was all for Warnock being given a go. I had my doubts when we were signing ex Portsmouth players like they were going out of fashion and I am also getting fed-up with NW's policy to sign players he has worked with before. His tactics are a joke, he signs/wastes our entire pre-season budget on Peltier and plays him LB I am as clueless to his thinking as he is how to build a team. We don't just keep loosing, we look crap we have no quality or flair and we are lucky not to lose by double what we are. He will have been in the job a year next month, we are no better than before he arrived, we are probably worse.
I was thinking maybe Becchio is off elsewhere in the January Transfer Window because it's pure insanity to bench an 18 goal striker in what was an important game for both sides. Warnock is a **** and always will be. It would be the icing on the cake if he gets sacked again! The moanjy twat. P.S. Was his post-match interview still something like, "Well, we were the better team clearly, Hull scored 2 very lucky chances and took them compared to our complete assault on their Goalkeeper. I felt the officials got everything wrong and they were clearly Hull biased and are the complete reason as to why we didn't win..." and all that poncy ****e he spouts out constantly?
I agree on no quality or flair. It's becoming more and more apparent we don't have what it takes to turn teams over and if we're going to go up we need to have that in our locker.
I personally don't want Warnock to go. There, I've said it! Tactically inept? Well if he is, he's been very successful by being tactically inept! Today he played 3-5-2 to flood the midfield to match them, but we simply got bullied off the ball when we had it, and even when we didn't, we didn't seem to know what to do with it! That's basic lack of skill & commitment, not lack of tactical nous. So as far as I'm concerned, our defeat had nowt to do with tactics. Becchio had a thigh knock, Peltier is resting an injury, & Diouffy complained he's never played so many games in his life in such a short period, so needed a rest. Thomas has clearly not been coping with 2 games a week, so he needed rested too. Unfortunately, this all happened at the same time, and revealed all of the weaknesses in our squad. I'm also convinced that Rossco, Rudi & Somma are not match fit, and think it was clear for all to see. So who was left out that should have been played? Can't think of an improvement myself, other than Drury playing instead of Shiite (wish I knew what was going on with Drury - seem to have brought him in as 3rd choice!). So perhaps some clever clogs out there can actually explain what tactics were used, what was incorrect about them, and the tactics we should have used instead to make a shiite team play like winners? Think the correct tactics will include a magic wand, myself ...
He was very complimentary of you actually and conceded that we were outclassed. But his thoughts on the Forest game were along the lines of what you've just said. Becchio had a knock and Colin didn't want to risk making it worse which is why he was on the bench. Becchio's going nowhere.
If they were injured why put as subs then? put Poleon some one else there in their place. Whats the point of Becchio being on bench injured and making just 2 subs. At least put youth there to gain some experinece in first team. Why put crosses in when we have no ariel threat without Becchio thats poor tactics. If we cant pass and move and are too slow, then we need a target man route one style to fall back on, we dont even have that.
Patrick Kenny Lee Peltier Adam Drury Tom Lees Jason Pearce Patrick Kisnorbo Paul Green Rodolph Austin Jerome Thomas Luciano Becchio Luke Varney Jamie Ashdown Aidan White Alan Tate Danny Pugh Michael Brown Michael Tonge David Norris Andy Gray El-Hadji Diouf Robbie Rogers Zac Thompson Samuel Byram Dominic Poleon Sanchez Payne Davide Somma Ryan Hall Paul Rachubka Chris Dawson Ross McCormack Leigh Bromby Alex Cairns Ramon Nunez Lewis Turner That is our squad as taken from the official site (granted Tonge has gone back for now) There is more flair and quality on the ones who were already here than the shambles Warnock has signed. Tactics start with the players you sign and the style of football you work on around the players you have. Tactics this season, Peltier at LB for starters, second the Forest game, who never saw that we needed to make a change before the first half finished, Warnocks first change was when we were 4-1 down. Austin played against Forest clearly not match fit, McCormack left on the bench game after game, last seasons best player, today White at LB when he has signed Dury the best LB in the division we were told. Honest mate I could go on and on picking out dubious decisions. Yes we could all manage better we are all closet managers but you can't say a man who took us to our heaviest home defeat last season and again subjected us to a 6-1 home thrashing by WATFORD this season and has us playing hoof ball week after week is the right man for the job. 1) I wanted Warnock 2) I have given him a chance (12 months) 3) Our style of football is awful 4) His signings are talentless and overage 5) Promotion is out for this season 6) New manager working with what he has maybe a signing or two in January building for next season. Warnock will NOT be our manager this time next season, it just depends on if the new board make the changes now or later. Later and we risk blowing our budget and being left with more deadwood overage players and problems for a new manager to sort
Lambert is a good manager, he had momentum with Norwich and would have been doing better had he stayed at Norwich than he's done with the team he's got at Villa. If we were to get him in and allow him to build a team from the ground up he'll do well for us.
I know what you're saying, but you only offer up his personnel selection decisions rather than tactics. I keep hearing about how Warnock uses the wrong tactics, but no-one ever specifies exactly what they mean, tactics-wise. I'm truly puzzled by it. I'm not spoiling for an argument, just wanting to understand what it is that everyone appears to see apart from me.
Defending deep. That's what I mean. Every time Hull got the ball around the half way point we had 8 players in our 3rd, instead of pushing up and pressurising them and forcing them to play it back or just play it somewhere. We gave them space to do whatever they want to do, same as we did against Chelsea and they both punished us for it. We're not defending from the front. If we defended from the front, these teams wouldn't have the opportunity to cut through us so easily because they wouldn't have the time to build up a head of steam and look for an opening or create an opening. We're not getting tight enough to players when we're defending, our movement when defending is stiff and stubborn and lazy.
Changing your formation to match our 3-5-2 was tactical suicide. Totally the wrong decision. That's one for you
To be honest Eire Paul Lambert has inherited a piss poor team and managers before at AV have done nowt. Please no Strachan
