With great respect Sooper...It's not inevitable (if i'm getting you right and you mean going down)...it's highly possible.....quite likely probable...but certainly not inevitable.
most of the skillful,good players have let us down with there lack of effort,passion and work rate and the others with pasion,work rate and effort have let us down with their lack of skill!...Not a good combo. I really think we miss Nelson when hes out and I still think Johnson's injury was a big blow.
I really admire those of you who are clinging to the hope we'll turn it round but I've seen nothing to fuel such expectations. A side that has won one game in 19 now needs to win half it's remaining games, we've already failed to beat Reading, Saints, Villa and West Ham at home so have run out of 'easy' home games and Liverpool and Chelsea are next up. I hope, but I don't expect...
Fu*k you Oddball. When I saw that bird lying down, I thought there was going to be some hanky panky on your video. I feel more let down by that than our team!
I remember when Holloway was last at the club and thinking, 'this guy could be at Rangers for another 10 years and we'll never be better than mid table". I'm not convinced he's that amazing a manager although i agree he'd give it everything (love him obviously). As for Sir Les, i wonder if he'd make a good manager? My gut tells me 'no' for some reason.
Further to the previous Lazio mention, Spartak Moscow fans invaded their own training facility recently with paintball guns and shot their players for not showing enough commitment. Swords, get on it.
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Superb post. I think it's too easy to look back in hindsight and solelg blame managers but perhaps indicative of Football culture today The only thing managers are really responsible for is tactics and team selection. The rest is down to the personnel. There is no excuse for experienced senior players to perform to the standards they have been. Reading are doing just as well with nowhere near the talent of some of the QPR players. This is the same at the top of the table re: City and United. I'm sure Harry will bring about changes which enhance the chances of survival. Win or lose his always go out on a limb for him and Jamie Mackie, Clint Hill, Shaun Derry and Ryan Nelsen are the types that will roll up their sleeves and not keel over. I'd urge QPR fans not to give up yet though, as bleak as things look teams have come back from far worse positions. West Ham were 10 points adrift in 06/07, I went to Craven Cottage in early March 07/08 simply because I believed it would be the last time I'd get to see Fulham in the PL, I wouldn't have gone if I had even thought there was a remote chance of them staying up. It can be done. 5 points is not a lot especially given the poor form of sides around you
Not true!! Over the next 19 games we need to get 5 points more than Wigan, 6 points more than Southampton and no worse than Reading. Dont seem so bad when you look at it like that.
Exactly this is the trouble of looking inward and seeing only black. We have half the season left and this is correct .. I see Villa being dragged in as well as maybe a couple more. There looks agap thee today but I believe it will equate out with ten games to go into three leagues again as it always does .. we may even be safe by then who knows? I still laugh at posters saying we are relegated
Whether he is or he isn't I'm not that bothered. We just shouldn't go near Ollie again. In my opinion, it never works the second time around (eg Gerry Francis). And I just don't like the idea of going back in for a previous Manager. Leave the past in the past. Now you're talking Jerel. What I wouldn't give to be able to let off a couple of rounds at Cisse, Granero, Bosingwa etc. That would get 'em moving!
Dont agree mate, after Holloway left us, he changed his whole belief in the way the game should be played and his style....The result..Blackpool in the Premiership.! I am not for one minute championing a holloway comeback, but we need someone that loves our club and knows what it is to be a Ranger, to be in charge!! Not sure about Sir Les but that classic FM is absolute quality!! One of, if not the best we've had !! IMHO!!
If there was a 'Headline of the year' comp, this would get my vote. And the one who is really pissing me off at the moment is Junior Toilet, he should be ****ing ashamed he can't get in this side, lazy ****.
Can't agree CORKeR. There are loads of examples of players who have been at the same club for years in all countries and give their all for the club every weekend. Take a look at the likes of Scholes and Giggs at Utd. That club is their entire life. Giggs still chases defenders down at 54 years of age. Now, I know that Utd is an institution and I have picked an easy example but a huge problem we have is the massive turnover of players at our club, with another half dozen coming in Jan. These players have no loyalty to our club or connection with our fans. They earn too much money too quickly. It's no coincidence that the likes of Hill, Adel and Mackie who are our longest servants, are our hardest working players. Just my thoughts mate.
I think CORKeR has a point. You give examples of Scholes and Giggs but the constant that glues them to the club is the manager and that's where so many clubs' problems start. Take out Fergie, Wenger and Moyes and then, off the top of your head, name a manager in any of the four divisions that has been at their club more than five years. Not easy, is it? One club players are so rare now because every manager that comes in has a different view of players and it's rare to find one player that survives this constant changing. The older a player gets the more they can be seen by a manager as a threat to their job as a popular club 'legend' will always be a prospective future manager. Players regularly kiss the badge and five minutes later are engineering a lucrative move elsewhere, it's so cynical it's become the norm...
It's unfair to be blame the players. Talent aside they are no better or worse than those at any other club, they are mercenary but so are the players at other clubs. The blame lies squarely with Hughes, Joorabchian and above all Fernandes. Naivety is no excuse for Fernandes, that's what staff are paid for. Do the Arabs at City know more about football than you or I? I think not but look at the results...
