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Friday 28th December 'Race Of The Year' Daily Thread

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Brough Tiger, Dec 27, 2012.

  1. stick

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    I think they have been fiddling with it WL and today is the day!
     
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  2. Bostonbob

    Bostonbob Well-Known Member

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    And Stick...

    Laterly in the last at leicester.
     
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  3. Ron

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    I'll have to look back on this thread when I get time. Sounds as though there were some more cracking selections.

    Well done on the great calls. This forum is on fire. <party><party><party>
     
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  4. Bostonbob

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    Third. An okay run.

    Kaki Island in the Limerick bumper for an each way bet at 7/1
     
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  5. Wayward Lad

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    Seen, gone for Piscean in the Bet365 free bet race 5.20 Wolverhampton. Good stuff today thanks im out of here for now <cheers>
     
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  6. stick

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    Good shout on Laterly Bob
     
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  7. Bostonbob

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    Thanks Steve. Lads, when i stick a Gollings runner up it's worth taking note. He's my girlfriends uncle.
     
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  8. stick

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    Wish you had told me that fifteen minutes ago LOL
     
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    Shame with Carmela Maria as I think she would have won the race well. Considering she was cruising around today compared with running in snatches the last day I think she would have taken a hell of a lot of beating. Wasn't to be however but she owes me nothing from the last day. a
     
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  10. niksboy

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    I studied the forum all morning and decided to split todays £20 between Stick's and ROTO's, just returned from a couple of hours work and delighted to see that my account is over a ton up. This forum is absolutly amazing, cheers guys.
     
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  11. Bluesky9

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    I have unfortunately not seen a race today as I have been out all day. It appears however that once again the forum is on fire, many congratulations to ROTO, Stck, Top Class and Bob (apologies if anyone missed).

    If the Racing Post wanted to give as our own page everyday what a popular page that wold be, winner after winner at prices anyone can back. Long may it continue. <ok>
     
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  12. Bostonbob

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    Botti horse being backed tonight in the 5.20 - Mezzotint. It's one of my betting maxims to back a backed Botti.

    Also keen on the rare Hobbs runner Alazan in the last. 9/4 and 4/1. Really doesn't matter if they win or not. Today's paid for a holiday next summer.
     
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    I like this one as well. Form looks rock solid with the runner up Emerald Wilderness getting beaten a neck on his next start. 3lb rise is more than fair and I think if this was trained by a flat trainer as opposed to Hobbs it would be considerably shorter

    Well done today BB
     
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  14. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    Brimstone Hill 3/1 in the last at Wolves.
     
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  15. King Shergar

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    Good to see the 2 Irish hype horses, Flemenstar and Sir Des Champs getting found out today, by an old codger like Tidal Bay.

    Never understood the hype with Sir Des Champs in particular, won the weakest novice chase of the festival and all of a sudden he's vying for favouritism for the Gold Cup:biggrin:
     
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  16. hawkeye

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    i don't get all this anti SDC stuff. He again ran a race full of promise. If he can improve his jumping, surely they will school him intensively before cheltenham, adding the extra 2 furlongs and stiff hill he is going to be bang there in the gold cup. Out of todays race he is the one that can improve the most i think.
     
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  17. stick

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    Pushing my luck here I know but going for another little tickle in the 4.50 Wolves with MORAL ISSUE 33-1 who runs off a mark a few pounds below his last winning mark and might very well appreciate a return to the AW.

    I dont think Flemenstar or Sir Des Champs lost too much in defeat there today. Tidal Bay is a class act on his day. Flemenstar doesnt quite get the trip and SDC needs to jump better!
     
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  18. King Shergar

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    He's got no chance with Bobs Worth or Long Run. It said it all about the horses ability that they bottled running in the RSA, besides horses that finish 4th in the Lexus don't win Gold Cups, the winner Tidal Bay has never been good enough to land a blow in the Gold Cup, so what does that say about the rest of them? :biggrin:
     
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  19. TopClass

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    Sir Des Champs is the victim of the media reaction after the Jewson. Let me try to explain.


    He looked, to me at least, to be the one novice with a bottomless engine who had all sorts of improvement in him. I wanted him in the RSA because I thought that was his sort of trip. As a novice, he had been known to make mistakes. His engine always got him out of jail, and that to me showed both his weaknesses and his potential- if he got the jumping spot on, he would be the sort to stay on past everyone in a Gold Cup.

    Prior to Cheltenham, he was around 6s and 7s for the Jewson (and even at the one point wher he looked set for the RSA, hewas never any shorter than 8s), and this is for an unbeaten Willie Mullins Gigginstown chaser. There was no hype about him whatsoever, and the fact you got 3/1 on the day for the Jewson said everything about just how little people had really taken notice of him. He was a 6/4 shot in my book that day.

    Of course, what transpired was that he was put in the Jewson, won it with a fair bit to spare and gave the impression that 3 miles would see him in an even better light. Bang- there you have where the hype (and the scandalous 6/1 for the Gold Cup <yikes>) was created, because all of a sudden the penny dropped in the media. They had an unbeaten Mullins chaser on their hands who had double Cheltenham success to boot (won the Martin Pipe in 2011)

    He is a very lazy racer and you only see glimpses of his ability when Davy Russell wakes him up, or when he makes an error and wakes himself up. As you saw today- at one point he looked like going 6, 7, 8 lengths off the pace and then Russell stokes him up and he has been beaten only a length in the end. He is not flashy, he doesnt set the world alight, but he keeps on battling when asked.

    He has been too short for the Gold Cup all season, which is why you have heard little support from me for him, and trust me I'm a major fan of his chances in a 3 and a quarter mile Gold Cup. Hopefully we might see some backable prices for him now.


    His best performances have been at Cheltenham and you might yet get the sort of price where you can enjoy him. The sad thing is that the media created a false image of him as a beast of a chaser.

    No one has seen the best of him, yet.
     
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  20. hawkeye

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    If he was trained by Henderson you would be all over him shergar. The undulating nature of cheltenham is hard to replicate, which is why some horse improve massively at the track. So i will be having a double festival winner on my side.
     
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