most of them fans have spent hundreds of pounds this season to see the team win one game and on top of that see well payed players not give 100%. the crowd have a right to show their frustration, it is understandable in my opinion.
Sorry but there are 57 points still to play for as punch drunk you may all be, we are on the ropes so what I think Nuts this is a dreadful post ... its your opinion but how posters can like this is beyond me. Half way stage and yes the facts are we have been dreadful. Draw the line and stand where you will ... The beauty is NO ONE knows what is going to happen... I love that... its keeps me going If we go down then i won't be on the side of moaners. 57 points left and Sword's team next... Liverpool One game at a time win or lose
That's a very poor comment and its not the first one you've come out with in recent times Oslo. The fans gave it 100% all season and it was chucked back in their faces. There's only so much disrespect people can take. You used to be one of the best posters on this forum but your contempt for the guys and girls that have given everything to support this team is unfathomable. Also, your loyalty to the Club has become very questionable over the last month or two. I don't know what your game is exactly but I think you're right out of order.
Nuts. I agree with ya lad on all but one part. Yes, in Ireland we do have amateur athletes playing sports to a professional standard for, essentially, the love of the jersey. However, I really think the days of English (or any nation's) professional players 'playing for the jersey' are long gone. Maybe in rare exceptional cases, but long gone me lad, long gone..... So, we'll support the Rs all the way to the end - another 40 or 50 years hopefully!!
He is not the simple fact is that The average mainstream QPR fan has grown in a demanding monster which of course is understandable given the last few years but each man should look at himself. LR has a part to play for sure as it did last year... Blame yourselves if you have to but focus. The **** on here about them not trying is pathetic and its these energies that drag us down. Who are you all going to attack this Sunday? ... History may show how a football club ate itself
As someone who has dragged their arse to Loftus Road for but a handful of games over the last 44 years let me re-write your post for you Oslo.... FFS - Play up, we owe it to the fans. We have no chance of winning if we aren't giving it 100%. The fans tried to give it on Saturday, but we the players seemed very poor again. We aren't going to win games unless we give our all and play like we give a ****. There, that feels so much better.
Hells bananas Dave, I used to be one of your biggest fans and enjoyed your posts, but your starting to sound like your from WACO or one of them there Moonies Are you infected mate?
DT has been talking total bollox all season, he's out with the fairies. You're no less a supporter for seeing the reality of the situation and admitting we are total shyte. Most of the players have let us down with their lack of pride and effort and if you can't see that you've got sh*t in your eyes...
Your obviously entitled to your opinion OSLO and my rule of thumb has always been to show due respect to any comment that is reasonable and based on a solid footing. I'm not miserable by nature OSLO. I generally look on the bright side of life but I will never allow anybody to sh**e on me. That's what I feel these players are doing. There lack of effort is driving me NUTS. You may feel like they gave it there all on Sat but I sure as well don't. Sorry OSLO but I could not disagree with you more mate. I saw no energy, no passion and nobody busting a gut for us. Considering we are bottom of the league and in dire straights, it's simply not good enough. Fans will always give it there all if the players even show an ounce of effort. Look at the Villa fans. 8-0 down and they were still singing Lamberts name and encouraging the players. Why? Because they recognised that they had young players and a young manager who were giving it their all despite getting a hammering. Our fans are also magnificent but we are not idiots. Performances will generate results. Effort and commitment are needed to generate a performance. Most of our players are not giving enough of these IMO.
Well I know you are loyal to the scum, or is it Pool, but are you loyal to QPR? A huge part of that is supporting the players, if you are not at the games beam it over!
I watched it only on the TV Nuts, and knowing how hard or not players are trying is not as clear as when you are at the game, so I respect that (if you were there?) you got a better understanding than me. But from where I was all the players looked like they were giving 100%, and Harry said the same after - he hasn't always done that.
Being some kind of Devils Advocate i can actually see what Oslo is saying. What kind of good does it do to slate the team at every chance ? It isn't gonna get them playing any better. Some 'fans' (I use that term loosley) seem to take great delight slagging off each and every player at every opportunity and look for the same scapegoats week in, week out.(And i don't particularly mean on a messageboard) It's very easy to support a team that are winning every week but f*** me, it's a lot harder trying to get motivated to sit in the rain and see us succumbe to yet another loss. Saying that, of course the performances of the team hasn't been good enough (a real understatement) but what should we as fans do ?? We can't change our team just to see a victory or 2 and I wont stop going 'cos i've spent a lot of money on my season tickets. There isn't an easy answer so until someone can give me a better idea i'll still be there cheering us on. Deluded maybe.......Loyal Certainly.
Regardless of the performance of the players, or lack of it, we should be loud and proud for our club. Lets not sit back and watch with quiet, dispirited gloom. Lets sing loud with passion for 90 minutes. If we go down, let every team know about how we shouted and sang our hearts out for our team. We are here now, and we'll be here supporting our team when it changes again. Let's fight the good fight with all our passion every week. If we go down we go down singing LOUD AND PROUD
Out of order Swords. He gave his opinion ffs, this is a messageboard and it's all about opinions. It doesn't sit well with me posts like that.
Some on here are misreading the OP, we'll give just as much support to our team regardless, it's just the team are not giving it their all. I'll be cheering us on regardless, but there is an inevitability about our situation that any sane person would see, I'd really love to be proved wrong but the mountain is getting bigger to climb. Sorry if the reality of our situation is too much for some of you...
HR is not lying or is he? no idea where did that come from? IMO he is simply managing and doing his job. He is the manager So let's see here ... a five word question? then followed by your statement that we have a liar. That is the mental level of a teenage schoolgirl?. You are a schoolgirl. Stan is usually right and i agree with most of what comes from within him. Facts are we have ten points and 57 to play for... an unemployed schoolgirl, a very insightful Stan, a zoo full of infected animal and me... the worst idiot on here
Frustration, annoyance and cold fury completely understood Nuts, but don't think yourself into a negative corner that its difficult to escape from, as quite a few on here seem to have done. I didn't see any player 'not trying' on Boxing Day. I saw a few desperately off form/lacking touch and a few who give their all but are simply not quite good enough for this level. But above all I saw a unit which did not seem to have a plan, a shape or a clear intention. As a military man you will appreciate the consequences of this are inevitable. I refuse to believe that Harold (or for that matter Hughes) sent them out without clear instructions and a plan for the game. So what goes wrong? On Wednesday we lacked leadership - M'bia led by example in terms of effort but is not the man to coach, cajole and reorganize on the pitch. Clint, our captain on the day, tried manfully but, bless him, has enough to occupy him with his own game and baby sitting Anton. We rely totally on Nelsen to bring intelligence onto the pitch. Whatever happens for the rest of the campaign, even if Adel and Cisse score 20 each, Ryan is already my player of the season by a mile. Added to this the group morale looks dangerously low, and giving away soft goals doesn't help. This was quickly transmitted to the crowd, most of whom would have had a nightmare simply getting to the ground already, and the majority settled into a numbed, resigned spectator rather than participant mode after WBA scored the first. Morale is something I would expect Harold to fix (Hughes patently not equipped in this area). Many on here have lauded him as a 'great man manager', we can't wait much longer for this to kick in. The players have let us down this year. Hughes, rightly, took the blame for this and suffered the consequences. Harold has to take on the responsibility as well - he knew what he was taking on, the players he had available, the time/money on the table - for his two loses on the trot he has blamed the players (or some of them) and the ref. I would prefer him to say "we weren't good enough today and its my job to turn it round". As everything in life, this boils down to personal responsibility and accountability being taken on board by everyone involved. The players are responsible for their own performances, Harold is accountable for the team's. Swords the 'lying' comment is out of context and you know it. PS we are nowhere near relegated yet. This league is, happily, full of dross.
Of course I am Nines ... I am merely stating that should we seriously take stock just for instance the average poster on here ... there has been a change. It's easy just to say that we are QPR and that's how we do it. No IMO we have changed collectivity and the investment we have in our club has I believe spoiled us a bit as men and women. Example statment to all? Liverpool pending : Mackie has been top of the list to get rid of and was on many lists to get rid of throughout last season or he is a hero having scored the winner in the match that saved us. He then is acclaimed as being useless once again with no end product and we have no cutting edge when he plays ... He scores a brilliant header against Villa and he is brilliant again. UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN UP DOWN IN OUT IN OUT IN OUT IN OUT IN OUT... Is that stable? Times that statement above by every player/manager in a hoops shirt and you have the negative energy that is dissolving our club. Why not boil in all down: WE WANT TO WIN AND WE WANT TO WIN EVERY GAME. Does anyone EVER consider that people that work for QPR are trying? ... If anyone can't see that then I may remain one of the only few stable people to post on here. REFLECTION IS NOT DELUSION. A few of you should try the Tibetan Rites but alas it will laughed off: [video=youtube;5OyiHQRpY0Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OyiHQRpY0Y[/video]
