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Was it not China that invented soccer?

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  1. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    Vikings for the first non native Americans to land in North America. If I remember right their colony was driven out by the native tribes.
     
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    Vinland IIRC. Tho I don't think they were driven out as much as they only settled the north eastern tip of Newfoundland and so didn't have the resources to found a permanent colony. Every few years they would arrive, set up a temporary settlement, hunt for furs and other such, then head home. Kind of like medieval booze cruises...
     
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  3. BringBackfootie

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    History Debate fail 101
     
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    Keep that magic 8 ball rolling UIR. It's fookin brill <ok> They could put your predictions in fortune cookies and sell em in Salford
     
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  5. BringBackfootie

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    Correction.

    <doh>
    Book : 1421 The Year China Discovered the World.

    They circumnavigated the globe, the first to do it.Real proof Chinese settlers settled in the US Australia Africa the Carribean india and other places. Your great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandad might have been one of those sailors mano
     
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  7. Red Hadron Collider

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    My line Ox <laugh>
     
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    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    It&#8217;s one of Minnesota&#8217;s greatest mysteries. It&#8217;s something that puts settlers in America well before Columbus. A Minnesota geologist thinks the controversial Kensington Runestone is the real thing and there is evidence that he says backs up the theory. The Kensington Runestone is a rock found near Alexandria a century ago. It&#8217;s inscription speaking of Norwegians here in 1362. It begs the question. Were Vikings exploring our land more than 100 years before Columbus? Or is it just an elaborate hoax?

    New research shows that the stone is genuine and there&#8217;s hidden code that may prove it. It contains carved words that have haunted these hills and the Ohman family for more than 100 years, yet their faith has never wavered. &#8220;I just never had any doubt. I mean I was very emphatic about it. Absolutely it&#8217;s real. There&#8217;s no doubt,&#8221; said Darwin Ohman. His grandfather found the Runestone.

    Darwin&#8217;s grandfather Olof Ohman has been considered the author of Minnesota&#8217;s most famous fraud, the Runestone. He says he found it buried under a tree in 1898. Critics say the language on the stone is too modern to be from 1362, that some of the runes are made up. They say this simple farmer carved it himself to fool the learned.

    &#8220;You&#8217;re calling him a liar. If this is a hoax he lied to his two sons, he lied to his family, lied to his neighbors and friends and lied to the world,&#8221; said Scott Wolter a geologist and researcher of the Runestone. Wolter and Texas engineer Dick Nielsen are sharing for the first time new evidence about the hidden secrets they say are carved in this stone. &#8220;It changes history in a big way,&#8221; Wolter said

    In 2000 he performed one of the very few geological studies on the stone. He says the breakdown of minerals in the inscription shows the carving is at least 200 years old, older than Olof Ohman. Those findings support the first geological study in 1910 that also found the stone to be genuine.

    &#8220;In my mind the geology settled it once and for all,&#8221; he said. Linguistic experts are not convinced. They say runes like those on the stone are made up. But Nielsen has now found the same one here in an old Swedish rune document dating back to the 1300&#8217;s. &#8220;It makes me ask the question if they were wrong about that what else were they wrong about?&#8221; Wolter said.

    For the first time Wolter has documented every individual rune on the stone with a microscope. He started finding things that he didn&#8217;t expect. He was the first to discover dots inside four R shaped runes on the stone. He said they are intentional and they mean something. So Wolter and Nielsen scoured rune catalogs.

    &#8220;We found the dotted R&#8217;s. It&#8217;s an extremely rare rune that only appeared during medieval times. This absolutely fingerprints it to the 14th century. This is linguistic proof. This is medieval, period,&#8221; Wolter said. They traced the dotted &#8216;R&#8217; to rune covered graves inside ancient churches on the island of Gotland off the coast of Sweden. What they found on the grave slabs were very interesting crosses. They were Templar crosses, the symbol of a religious order of knights formed during the crusades and persecuted by the Catholic Church in the 1300&#8217;s. &#8220;This was the genesis of their secret societies, secret codes, secret symbols, secret signs all this stuff. If they carved the rune stone why did they come here and why did they carve this thing?&#8221; Wolter asked.

    He has uncovered new evidence that has taken his research in a very different direction. Wolter now believes that the words on the stone may not be the record of the death of 10 men but instead, a secret code concealing the true purpose of the rune stone. Two runes in the form of an L and a U are two more reasons why linguists say Olof Ohman carved the stone. They are crossed and linguists say they should not be. A third rune has a punch at the end of one line. Each rune on the stone has a numerical value. Wolter and Nielsen took the three marked runes and plotted them on a medieval dating system called the Easter Table.

    &#8220;When we plotted these three things we got a year, 1362. It was like &#8216;oh my god is this an accident? Is this a coincidence?&#8217; I don&#8217;t think so,&#8221; Wolter said. They wondered why Templars would come to North America, carve the stone and code the date. &#8220;If it&#8217;s the Templars that were under religious persecution at the time, that would be a pretty good reason to come over here,&#8221; Wolter figured. &#8220;I&#8217;m sure a lot of people are going to roll their eyes and say oh it&#8217;s the Davinci Code and if they do they do. This is the evidence. This is who was there. This is what the grave slabs tell us. It is what it is,&#8221; he said. Wolter and Nielsen&#8217;s authored the book &#8220;The Kensington Runestone: Compelling New Evidence.&#8221; Wolter is currently writing another book on the Runestone.

    It may sound a little over the top but it&#8217;s really no overstatement to say that much in our modern world is based on falsehood and fabrication. We are told, for example, that Columbus &#8216;discovered&#8217; America in 1492, yet there is plenty of evidence to suggest that others had visited America before Columbus: including visitors from ancient Egypt, Phoenicia and medieval Europe. Despite this modern authorities continue to push the line that &#8220;Columbus discovered America.&#8221;

    In point of fact Columbus himself never even set eyes upon America; the closest he got to the mainland of North America was Puerto Rica. However in the aftermath of Columbus&#8217;s voyage John Cabot sailed from Bristol, England; which in turn opened the way for the first colony in Jamestown, Virginia and thus allowed the English to claim America as their own. Yet there is considerable evidence that suggests that others from different cultures preceded Cabot and Columbus. So one is forced to ask: why, when there is much to suggest that others from different cultures preceded Columbus, don&#8217;t we hear more about this possibility being investigated? Could it be that certain powers have a vested interest in keeping our real history under wraps?

    Whatever the answer the fact remains that a great deal has been unearthed which is completely at odds with conventional notions regarding the origins of what we know today as America. In fact according to some contemporary authorities, the Native Americans encountered by the early settlers from England were not what they appeared to be. They were indeed native to the Americas but they were not its original inhabitants, who according to various tribal legends, had disappeared eons before in a series of cataclysms.

    no mention of Chinese.

    definitely a lot of things on this planet we don't really know the answer to.
     
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  9. BringBackfootie

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    Columbus used copies of Chinese maps as did Magellan and Cook.
     
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  10. Ivor Biggun

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    And Obama bin laden orchestrated 9/11, the illuminati secretly rule the world and UFO's for some reason enjoy giving Americans anal probes.

    Don't read any more books BBF. You're obviously too stupid to think for yourself and are easily swayed by tenuous links and pure conjecture.
     
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  11. BringBackfootie

    BringBackfootie New Member

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    Great advice

    Me, I didnt write the book, but your comment is actually anti education and ignorance, unwilling to look at other facts that deviate from what you beieve. Gavin Menzies wrote the book, found the proof I just posted for some debate, what the **** are you on about you poorly educated twat.

    Between you and the pretentious twats this is great ignorance on here, loving it<ok>

    I offered some of a historians work, someone that has spent years traveling all over the world yet again to research after being a submarine captain for the Royal Navy. I would give him some credit and at least have the decency to look into his research before making ridiculous comments.

    I've had the first draft of that history in school and researched after reading compelling evidence in the book.

    Most conventional historians have acted the same way to this info as some of ye have. typical self importance and sadly gross ignorance

    I haven't read that so it must not be true sort of comments. <doh>
     
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  12. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    I have a history book at home that essentially just destroys all of the fairy tale stuff you learn in school. Believe that's where I read about the Vikings settling in the NA. I know they had settled in Newfoundland, but I'm pretty sure they had ventured farther south, but didn't last long before they gave up and went home.
     
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  13. Milk Milk

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    China didn't invent football...

    They did create a cheap plastic knockoff of the sport that was made by depressed sweatshop workers for half the price.

    In the Chinese version the ball is owned by the state and falls apart the second time you kick it.

    If you criticise the ref they lock you away in solitary for a year.
     
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