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Daily Thread Wed 26th December ' Boxing Day'

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Bluesky9, Dec 25, 2012.

  1. Bluesky9

    Bluesky9 Philosopher

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    I thought I would start the thread early as I am sure there will be many opinions to be shared on what is traditionally one of the most enjoyable Jump racing days of the year. The forum was in exceptionally good form last week so lets see if we can have a good day tomorrow to push us into the new year with a long and loud Booooom!

    I feel Kempton offers the chance of some good Singles and also looks a day for doubles and trebles, my thoughts are as follows.

    12.50 River Maigue 11-8 (nap)
    Banker of the day for me, went down fighting against the Nicholls horse Dodging Bullets who he rates highly enough to throw into the big hurdles race of the day later in the card.
    1.25 Coole River 4-1
    A very decent return earlier in the month which i feel would have put him spot on for today. A yard in form and a good chance in a tricky race.
    2.00 Dynaste 8-15
    There is nothing I could write as the horse has spoken as loudly and clearly as it's possible to do so in his two runs this year, very classy, very exciting.
    2.35 Darlan 11-4
    A very difficult race to call with any real conviction but i have just come down on the side of Darlan, he was very impressive last year and I feel ready to take the next leap. This race will throw up a genuine challenger to the champion hurdle big boys, but I am just not sure which one it will be.
    3.10 Long Run 2-1
    I know he will make a couple of mistakes and I know he is ridden by a dentist but I still just about come down on him winning. There are some very good quality horses in the race but It's clear many have something or other to still prove in a race of this quality and so this just makes me come down on the side of Long Run. My heart says Cue Card however.
    3.45 Saint Roque 7-2
    A very hard call between the selection and Katkeau but I just feel Saint Roque has more to come and will edge out the other horse.

    Good luck one and all
     
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  2. Tamerlo

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    Bluesky, merry Xmas.
    You should have a few winners out of those selections- and I particularly like your Nap, River Maigue.
    However, the race that intrigues me is the Christmas Hurdle.
    Darlan at 11/4 doesn't really appeal, even though he's a horse I like. My opinion is that recent top hurdlers, unlike their fencing counterparts, are much of a muchness- with few outstanding performers.
    It fascinates me that the top rated hurdler in this race is Get Me Out Of Here, priced at 20/1.
    He lined up last Spring for The Tote Gold Trophy, set to carry the same weight as Zarkandar (11st 1lb)- and set to concede 5lbs to Darlan.
    Even though his apprentice rider claimed 7lbs, there is no doubt in my mind he would have beaten Zarkandar but for being badly hampered when taking control of the race. As you probably know, Darlan was challenging at the last when he fell.
    So why is Jonjo running him against his stablemate here(Darlan) , unless he is running him on merit ? Not many people will give him a chance, but his form says his best trip is a strongly run two miles. He may be a tad short of the very top but, on form, so are the others in this field- until they prove otherwise.
    Last time he ran a very bad race against Oscar Whisky at 20 furlongs, but I can forgive him a rare poor performance.
    The race is very difficult to call, but I shall be having an each way interest on him at a good price of 20/1.
     
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  3. woolcombe-folly007

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    Have chosen all six choices the same as yours Blue! Sorry lol <laugh> best of luck!

    Cant wait to see the old Long Run hose up! Cant see Cue Card lasting the distance let alone on this ground! In fact cant see many getting close! It will be a Henderson 1-2 (long run & RT) <ok>
     
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    Merry xmas all. Out all day tmz so replays will have to do. Long Run was 4/1 with Paddy Power this morning easy dosh BOOOOM

    lucky 15

    New Years Eve
    Darlan
    Long Run
    Dynaste
     
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  5. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    fancy loads, not many prices up but will be out all day tomorrow so put them up just now.

    Limerick
    12.35 Umpact 6/4
    2.40 Jennies Jewel 7/4

    Down Royal
    12.55 Johannisberger 2/1
    2.00 Torn Asunder 11/8
    2.30 Fickle Fortune 11/8
    3.00 Great Oak 5/4

    Leopardstown
    12.20 Urano 2/1
    12.50 Anonis 5/2
    1.20 Blood Cotil 5/4
    2.55 Arvika Ligeonniere 5/6

    Kempton
    12.50 River Maigue 5/4
    2.00 Poungach 6/1
    2.35 Darlan 11/4
    3.10 Long Run 2/1 - on at 4s

    Strong on Urano, Umpact, Blood Cotil, Fickle Fortune and Long Run

    Take the 25/1 Blood Cotil for the Triumph with Hills.
     
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  6. ROTO

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    1.25 Kempton

    Gores Island 20/1


    Very surprised such a big price is available Noel Chance's 6 year old as he looked to be running a huge race on his handicap debut before clouting 4 out which knocked the stuffing out of him in a race that I think will prove to be a very hot race on what was only his 2nd start over the larger obstacles. After running a really lovely debut by splitting Knight Pass and Victor Leudorum (both rated in 130s over hurdles) at Southwell in January 2011, Gores Island stepped up on a moderate debut over hurdles to score on his 2nd start over obstacles (5th career start) at Towcester in a Novice Hurdle on Stephen's Day (Boxing day to the UK folk) last year over 2m. Under Wednesday's pilot Jeremiath McGrath, Gores Island was held up in his traditional style and at about the half way point he found himself about 15L off the lead. Between the 4th and 3rd last flights McGrath started to get after his mount (albeit not vigorously) as his young pilot never looked to give him maximum effort. He was still about 7L off the lead going over the last before he powered up the run in to just get up on the line. He looked out of the race approaching the final flight and McGrath's demeanour seemed to suggest he felt his horse would finish out of the frame but his young rider sensed blood late on and he got up on the line to steal the win. The form of that race looks pretty strong with the 2nd John's Spirit (who gave Gores Island 10lb) rated 133 both over hurdles and fences whilst the 4th Loose Chips is now a 128 rated hurdler.

    Gores Island was stepped up in trip to 2m4f for his next start a couple of weeks later as he defied a penalty and gave the field 6lb as he scored at Doncaster to get 2012 off to a flyer as he scored by 0.5L although he looked a cosy enough winner in the end. Settled out the back of the field, Gores Island made good progress and got into the race nicely before going into 2nd between the final two flights where McGrath had to get pretty serious with him as he administered a fair few cracks of the whip. Gores Island responded to these urgings well as he took the lead with about 100 yards to go an repelled a late challenger who came up alongsides by pulling out a little bit more. I definitely feel that he had a fair bit more to offer if needed as he had his ears pricked going over the last but he got the job done which is all you can ask for. The form of that race doesn't look bad either with the 2nd Sixty Something now a 129 rated hurdler and it was a lovely effort under a penalty. Gores Island ran as well as could have been expected in a AW Bumper For Jumpers in February of this year when only beaten 5L in tough race whilst his last start over hurdles came in March when disappointing on his handicap debut off a mark of 120. Gores Island then had the summer off before he made his chasing debut at Stratford in a Beginners Chase on the back of an 8 month absence in testing conditions over 2m7f last month when finishing a well beaten 6th.

    Held up in his traditional fashion, Gores Island made a few jumping errors in his round. With about 6f to go, a group of 5 had broken clear from the rest of the field and Noel Chance's 6 year old came home best of the remainder and 47L behind the winner. It was an average debut over fences but he came home a very tired horse and was certainly entitled to need the run. The form of that race looks ok at present but I think its going to work out a lot better given time. After his chasing debut Gores Island was allotted the same mark as he had over hurdles of 119 and I thought he was running an absolutely massive place and looked destined to fight out the finish before belting 4 out which stopped him dead in his tracks. At the start of the month at Newbury over an extended 2m6f, Gores Island was held up at the rear of the 15 runner field before making some extremely eye catching headway under Richard Johnson. Swinging into the home straight, he looked by far the most likely winner as he came there swinging on the bridle and was about 1L off the lead when he ploughed into the 4th last fence which instantly put paid to his chances and he ended up coming home a well beaten 11th. That Class 3 handicap has worked out very well from the limited runners who have reappeared but I am convinced that it will be franked a great deal more to work out an extremely decent contest. Of those who have raced again, the 2nd Merry King went down in a photo finish off a 6lb higher mark to Cannington Brook the other day whilst the 3rd Handy Andy was a good winner on his only subsequent start off the same mark. Additionally the 9th and 10th home Master Neo and Benheir filled the first two places in the same race on their next outing, with the latter winning very impressively by 8L.

    I had e-mailed Noel Chance to ask him of his plans after his last run and he said that would be dictated by what the handicapper did and he would be calling him and he has done a fantastic job to convince him to drop him 4lb to a mark of 115 after that last run. Although also a Class 3, this looks a significantly easier race then his latest contest and I don't think he'll have any issue with the drop back to an extended two and a half miles. Jeremiah McGrath resumes his partnership with this 6 year old off bottom weight and his 5lb claim helps get him down to a lovely racing weight of 10-6. I have two niggling doubts which are the heavy ground and Richard Johnson getting off to ride Henry Daly's Grove Pride but McGrath has been declared for quite a while so perhaps Mr Chance wanted to further alleviated the weight he has to carry. Nevertheless the price more than factors in these issues for me and he is definitely a horse I feel can win off his current mark. A winner on the same day 12 months ago, I'm hoping that Gores Island can repeat that feat over fences and I'm quietly confident that he will do so at a really nice price.
     
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  7. stick

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    COOLE RIVER 4-1 is expected to win the Novice chase and I will be backing VALID REASON. In the last at 12-1
     
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  8. King Frankel

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    2.00
    1.Dynaste 2.Third Intention
    Not much value here with Dynaste so going for a small straight FC.

    2.35
    CountryWide Flame 15/8
    Medium bet for me.

    Also like Punjabi 28/1 a very small win bet.

    Also tiny Straight TC 1.Countrywide Flame 2.Dodging Bullets 3.Punjabi
    & 1.Punjabi 2.Countrywide Flame 3.Dodging Bullets

    3.10
    Cue Card 11/2 Medium bet

    Also tiny Straight TC 1.Cue Card 2.Riverside Theatre 3.Long Run
    & 1.Cue Card 2.Long Run 3.Riverside Theatre

    Too complicated to win any money?? :laugh:
     
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  9. ROTO

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    I'm off to Leopardstown tomorrow so decided to go through the card. Won't be backing most of these but thought I'd throw it up anyways.

    12.20 Leopardstown

    Absolute horror of a race to solve and its not one that I'll be having a bet in as there are a lot of potentially very nice horses going to post in this Maiden Hurdle. Noel Meade's Ned Buntline is held in very high regard by his County Meath handler who proclaimed "he's the best we've had for a while" when he scored very impressively on his 2nd career start in a Bumper at Naas last month. The J P McManus owned son of Refuse To Bend was quick to be sent hurdling when making his debut in that sphere at the start of the month when sent off a very warm order 8/13 favourite but he was unable to live up to marker expectations when ultimately disappointing in finishing 2nd. He probably ran into a good horse from Dessie Hughes in the shape of Bright New Dawn (who was well supported all day) and should improve for the experience and probably deserves his place at the head of the market. Another of the likely market principals is Willie Mullins's French import Urano who ran a lovely race on his Irish and hurdling debut at the end of November. Unbeaten in three starts in bumpers in France, this 4 year old ran a very big race on his first start for Mullins over hurdles on the back of a 6 month absence when going down fighting to Noel Meade's Ally Cascade by 0.5L at Thurles. Ally Cascade has already shown a strong level of form in his short career and had the benefit of experience and it was hard not to be impressed by Urano. He should strip fitter for that run and improve for the hurdling experience and I'd be very surprised if he finishes out of the frame. Of the others, Dermot Weld's Notable Graduate makes his hurdling debut and looks a very interesting contender as he was a pretty decent horse on the flat. Weld is sure to have him ready for this in a race he won with a similar sort back in 2010 and although it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if he won this I'd prefer to go with a horse that has hurdling experience in this race. Henry De Bromhead's Grey Monk was a recent &#8364;210,000 purchase after winning a Point to Point in very impressive fashion back in April and could be absolutely anything but he could easily be a longer term project for chasing.

    I'd be quite surprised if the winner didn't come from one of those four but which one of the four is the key question. If I had to choose I'd probably side with Willie Mullins's Urano who impressed me greatly on his Irish and hurdling debut and there is surely a lot more to come from this 4 year old. As I said, I won't personally be having a bet in this very tricky looking contest but if your keen for an opening race bet then I'd plump for Urano. That said, I couldn't put anyone off the others either and it typifies how tough a card this is.

    12.50 Leopardstown

    The 2nd race on the card doesn't look any easier as some fairly promising horses contest this Maiden Hurdle. Over hurdles, Willie Mullins's The Paparazzi Kid sets the standard as he stepped up from a moderate hurdling debut to chase home a horse I like a lot in the shape of Moscow Mannon on his latest start over hurdles. He had shown good promise in his bumpers as well and he's worthy of his place at the top of the market. However, I do feel that he's vulnerable to one of the hurdling debutants. Dermot Weld's Expanding Universe was an impressive winner of a bumper from a subsequent winner at Fairyhouse in October and he is sure to have his charge very well schooled for this but the one I like is Mags Mullins Anonis. After running a fine debut in a Bumper back in March 2011, Anonis was off the track for 605 days before winning extremely impressively on his 2nd career start when sent over to Cheltenham for a Listed Bumper where he scored in style as he powered up the hill to a 5 length success and he looked a very smart horse that day. That form is, in my eyes, the clear best shown by any of the horses in the field as the 2nd The Liquidator had shown some really strong form behind the exciting Clondaw Kaempfer on his debut and to score with such authority was very impressive and he looks a very talented horse in the making. Obviously, its difficult to know how he'll take to hurdles but I'm sure he's been well schooled. There is a little fear about him bouncing on his 2nd start back after such a long absence but Mags Mullins wouldn't risk a very exciting prospect if she felt it would happen. Again, not a race to get heavily involved with at all but I'll probably have a small bet on Anonis.

    1.20 Leopardstown

    Although he's still priced up, I've heard Our Conor will be withdrawn as he is coughing which should leave Willie Mullins's Blood Cotil a very short priced favourite for this Grade 2 Juvenile Hurdle. Another French Import, Blood Cotil couldn't have won any easier on his Irish debut but I don't think he really beat much that day. Nevertheless, he was still very impressive and is clearly a good horse but I personally couldn't go near him at likely odds on. Although its a massive pain in the ass that Our Conor's (impending) withdrawal will leave the field at 7 and turn each way betting into only two places, I think Gordon Elliott's Fisher looks quite overpriced at 14/1 for a yard who have won this with two relatively unfancied horses in the past 3 years. Formerly an average horse with Dandy Nicholls on the flat, this 3 year old has done very little wrong in his 3 hurdling starts for his talented Irish handler winning two and he's arguably unlucky not to be undefeated over jumps. After winning on debut for the Elliott yard from a subsequent winner who had experience over hurdles back in September, he followed that victory up by scoring easily in a race where the 3rd has come out and won again since under a 6lb penalty at Gowran Park in October. Fisher's last start came at Kempton when Gordon Elliott sent him across the Irish Sea that same month where a bad final flight blunder cost him victory as he was worn down by Alan King's McVicar. Attempting to concede that rival 10lb, Fisher travelled into the race like by far the best horse but he probably didn't find as much for pressure as he looked like he would but he lost little in defeat as the front pair drew well clear of the remainder of the field. The form of that race looks very strong with the winner scoring impressively on his next start under a penalty whilst the 19L beaten 3rd has also come out and won very well on his next start too. Since that run, Fisher has had a breathing operation which I think will work extremely well and should allow him to progress to the next level. Blood Cotil is the justified favourite but you've got to take on merit that his visually impressive performance against average horses was as good as it looked and I certainly couldn't touch him at odds on although he looks the likeliest winner. I'd much rather side with Fisher who has proven form in the book and looks the sort of horse jockey Paul Carberry will excel with. With Gordon Elliott having 2 winners and a second in this race in the past 4 years, its clearly a renewal he targets with his horses and I'm having a small each way bet in the hope he improves upon his already impressive record in this contest.
     
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    1.50 Leopardstown

    This field of 25 runners looks an absolute minefield and the fact that Paddy Power make Happy New Year a 7/1 favourite tells you exactly how open the race is. Only a race for a very small bet as there is bound to be something lurking in there that is a well handicapped horse. I couldn't put anybody off backing the aptly named Happy New Year who is clearly in great form having won his last 3 races and his progression doesn't look like stopping and he should definitely run a good race off an 8lb higher mark under young Shane Crimin who takes a handy 7lb off. Although I could make a case for about half the field, the one that interested me the most was the Dessie Hughes owned and trained Miss Accurate who makes her handicap debut off a mark of 111. This 16/1 shot hasn't had too much racing with only 8 career starts to date but I think she's on a workable mark and it wouldn't surprise me if she put in a big performance. A winner on her 3rd start in a Bumper from the pretty decent yardstick Glibin, Miss Accurate made a successful hurdling debut at Sligo in an average looking race before being sent off an 11/4 shot on her next race in a competitive contest where she was still going fine before sprawling on landing at the 6th last hurdle which ended her chance. She was then brought down at the final flight in a bad looking fall when comprehensively beaten at Listowel in September last year when set a fairly tough task and I'm presuming she picked up a nasty injury as she was off the track for 13 months before retuning in a flat race at Roscommon in October which was clearly just to blow away a few cobwebs. She made her long awaited hurdling comeback a few weeks later at Wexford when again set a pretty tough task and I thought she ran a really nice race finishing less that 5L behind the winner Top Madam who has come out to frank the form with a lovely 2nd in a handicap and she is now rated 130. It was also interesting that she was held up the last day (normally tries to lead) and it will be interesting to see what tactics are employed tomorrow. She's pitched into a handicap for the first time off a mark of 111 and I think the handicapper may have been slightly lenient on her and I definitely feel she can be competitive off this mark. Her full brother Themoonandsixpence is a 135 rated chaser (126 over hurdles) and it wasn't until his 2nd full season that he really got going so I think Miss Accurate certainly has the potential to improve this year. The trip should pose no problems and although I am slightly worried about the ground her brother won on soft ground so she should probably be ok. Under the excellent Bryan Cooper, I think Miss Accurate could definitely run a nice race and although I could be completely wrong in such a competitive field of 25 I think she's worth a small each way bet at the price.

    2.20 Leopardstown

    I normally like to look for bigger priced runners in fields like this but Carlingford Lough could prove extremely well handicapped over fences off a mark of 124 given he is 20lb higher rated over hurdles and although 4/1 isn't the best price he could take a ridiculous amount of beating off a lovely racing weight of 10-9. A horse I like a lot, he was a very good horse over hurdles winning 4 of his 6 starts in that sphere including twice at the Galway Festival (most recently in August) and although he hasn't been at his best over the larger obstacles he's a completely different proposition now sent handicapping. He was supremely impressive when sauntering to victory off a mark of 129 at the Galway Festival on his final start over hurdles but he was turned over at a very short price on his chasing debut by a horse who is extremely average at best and it was a clearly disappointing effort. However, he fared much better on his 2nd start over fences again at Galway over 2m6f when finishing less than 5L beaten back in 3rd behind the very useful pair of Lyreen Legend and Ipsos Du Berlais. He was again set a very tough task on his final start when held up off the pace in a race that favoured those who were sitting prominent as he finished a comprehensively beaten 5th last month at Gowran Park. Its no surprise that he has been quickly turned to a handicap by his very shrewd trainer John Kiely and if he gets his act together he could make his opening chasing mark of 124 look a little silly. The drop back to 2m1f isn't ideal as he's definitely a better horse over further and I'll see if rain arrives tomorrow and how the ground is before deciding whether or not to back him as, although he's fine in testing conditions, he's definitely a horse who is suited more by better ground. If translating what he has achieved over hurdles to fences, I think Carlingford Lough is by far the most likely winner although that is no guarantee.

    2.55 Leopardstown

    This looks a straight shoot out between Willie Mullins's Arvika Ligeonniere who is currently an odds on shot and likely to start very short and Jessica Harrington's Oscars Well and although I won't be having a bet I fancy the former to come out on top. Probably short of top class over hurdles in 2010, Arvika Ligeonniere was off the track for more than 2 years before reappearing in May of this year and he has been an extremely impressive victor in both his starts over fences to date. On each occasion he made all from the front and never saw a rival as he jumped extremely well to win in facile fashion which has earned him a 7/1 price tag for the Cheltenham Festival in March. His last run saw him demolish some very decent horses in Grade 1 Company at the start of the month as his quick and accurate jumping cut his opponents to pieces and he couldn't have won in more impressive fashion. The only live rival I see to him is Jessie Harrington's Oscars Well who himself was probably better over hurdles than his rival and who has won 2 of his 3 starts over fences, falling on the 2nd occasion. Like Arvika Ligeonniere, Oscars Well was an impressive winner of both his completed starts. However, I feel that Arvika Ligeonniere will make this a real test and I think that some jumping frailties could be exposed in Oscars Well who will undoubtedly have to jump very well if he wants to win this. It wouldn't be a big surprise if Oscars Well won but I think Willie Mullins's charge will prove a little too good for him

    3.30 Leopardstown

    It will take a good horse to land the finale at Leopardstown and although a lot of the powerful yards are represented in this contest I quite fancy the lesser known trainer David Harry Kelly to have a good chance with his debutant Moyle Park. Although a rookie trainer who only had his first runner in May of this year, David Harry Kelly has made quite a name for himself in Bumpers in his brief career saddling 5 winners and 5 placed horses from only 17 runners in his short but fledgling career. I've been really impressed with him so far and I'm hoping he's saved his best horse yet in the shape of Moyle Park. A son of Flemensfirth, Moyle Park is the first foal of a pretty decent Hurdle/Chase/Bumper/Point to Point winner in the shape of Lovely Present and on breeding he certainly looks to have potential. There is definitely an emphasis on stamina in his pedigree and he's sure to be suited by further over time but at this early stage of his career the uphill finish over 2m on debut in testing conditions should be fine for him. His Tipperary based trainer has already saddled a winning debutant in a bumper and I've no concerns about a lack of race sharpness on what will be trainer's first runner at Leopardstown. In addition, both his parents won on their debuts so that suggests he should be a forward type on his first racecourse start. Young 7lb claimer Pa King, who has ridden all of the trainers bumper winners, takes the ride and his allowance will certainly help in the conditions that he should have no issue with dealing with. He's forecast to be a massive 33/1 which I think looks very unlikely and hopefully be priced around the 20/1 mark.I certainly think he looks to have a decent chance and if his trainer has indeed been saving his best horse then hopefully it will round off the day with a lovely priced winner.
     
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  11. OddDog

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    Morning all, hope everyone is well and survived the calorific onslaught that is Christmas. Excellent <ok>.

    Woke up this morning with a slight sense of trepidation regarding the heavy going up and down the country. Particularly at Kempton, I spent quite some time looking through each race for horses with proven form on real heavy ground, and there aren't that many of them. Here's what I found, in racecard order:

    12.50 - well it's a novice hurdle so just back the Henderson horse, but that won't necessarily make you rich here. If we were on Gd-soft I would be lumping on River Maigue BUT on heavy going I am treading more carefully and recommend a small e/w on Asker. Gary Moore's 4YO gelding has won twice on the flat on heavy at Chepstow and Ffos Las and, on his most recent outing, was 3rd off a flat mark of 85 over 2m1f on heavy at Ayr. He had a couple of lengths in hand over the reopposing Cosimo De Medici that day and I see no reason for Hughie Morrison's charge to turn that around today. Alan King runs Hung Parliament, who actually ran in the French 2000 GNS for Tom Dascombe but has very little to recommend him here, whilst John Ferguson's New Year's Eve will surely struggle on the ground, based on his dire run at Punchestown.

    1.25 Coole River looks to be the answer here, having won on both soft and heavy for Jessica Harrington in Ireland. He made an enouraging debut for the Lavelle yard (when they were in desperate form) when 3rd to Grandioso at Wincanton. The other one with form on heavy is Aikideau, who may just have needed the run when disappointing last time out and looks a decent e/w alternative, having won a novice hurdle at Plumpton on heavy a year ago.

    2.00 The only runner in the field who has encountered true heavy ground is Colin Tizzard's Third Intention, who finished 2nd to Houblon Des Obeaux in a juvenile hurdle at Haydock a couple of years ago on heavy, with Kumbeshwar and Local Hero amongst the beaten horses. This might point to him being the one to chase Dynaste home but none of the field ought to get within 10 lengths of David Pipe's exciting novice.

    2.35 The Christmas Hurdle on heavy ground looks tailor made for Countrywide Flame, who slammed Cinders And Ashes in the Fighting Fifth in similar conditions. Don McCain's charge may well strip fitter today but such was the dominance of Countrywide Flame at Newcastle that I cannot see a different result today. On better ground, both Darlan and Dodging Bullets would be massive threats but I think both will find it too testing today, same applies to Get Me Out Of Here. Mad Moose just isn't good enough and surely Punjabi is on a fact finding mission? Raya Star does go on the surface and will give us a valuable form line with Oscar Whisky for CHampion Hurdle aspirations.

    3.10 The King George field has a real paucity of heavy ground form on offer, with only Captain Chris and Junior having won on going officially described as heavy, both of them on their most recent outings. Plenty of the field have won on soft, and I particularly like the look of Riverside Theatre's form on soft, especially when fresh. His seasonal reappearance last season at a muddy Ascot, when he took the Ascot Chase, was imperious and I think he might be the one today given the conditions. Looking more and more like a no bet race for me though.

    3.45 The Pipe yard will be looking to recover their Haydock losses on Katkeau (NAP), who came cruising up to take the Grade 3 Fixed Brush hurdle at the Lancashire venue but made a terrible blunder 3 out which cost him all momentum. That run was on very soft ground, he goes off the same mark here and should be able to make amends today.

    Best of luck but remember the ground is a great leveller, so for me not a day to be lumping on.
     
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    Over in Ireland, it catches the eye that Davy Russell is riding at Limerick today, rather than at the big Leopardstown meeting. He has Umpact, Shattered Dream and Far Away So Close for Gigginstown plus a couple of spares and I think it could pay to follow him.

    At Leopardstown the big novice chase takes centre stage and, impressive though Arvika Legionnaire was last time out, Oscars Well makes more appeal at 13/8 than the Mullins runner at 10/11, although the pair are very difficult to split on paper. I'll be looking to see the prices just before the off and if anthing around 2/1 is available for Oscars Well, then I'll be having some.
     
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  13. stick

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    Some tricky bumpers today but my lovely ladies Emma and Lucy may solve a couple of them. WOODLAND WALK 10-1 is expected to run well in the 3.55 Wincanton and PETERBROWN is considered a good thing 6-1 Towcester 3.40 with Dom Elsworth making a mad dash from Kempton to ride.
     
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  14. GGW

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    I literally don't fancy anything in King George. But something's got to win.
     
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  15. GGW

    GGW Well-Known Member

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    <laugh> 'stays longer than the mother in law'
     
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    12.55 Fontwell

    Gaelic Silver 11/2


    I've been waiting for Gary Moore's 6 year old to go over fences for quite a while and although very disappointing in her 4 starts in Britain over hurdles she's clearly a better chaser and I think she's clearly very well handicapped off a mark of 100 on the form she showed in France. Successful in a chase in France, I think Hugh Taylor noted that that form equated to being rated in the 130s and although she hasn't gone with much verve for Moore she did show up a lot better in first time cheekpieces for most of the race earlier this month and I'm hoping the switch back to fences can rekindle her enthusiasm. Although a fair few risks come attached, if she returns to any semblance of the form she showed in France then she should take an awful lot of beating.

    1.15 Sedgefield

    Along Came Rosie 6/1


    Andrew Crook's 8 year old has taken to the chasing game very well and has scored on 2 of her 3 runs over fences (both over C+D) and she still looks decently handicapped off only a 5lb higher mark than her last victory and last outing in this sphere back in May. She was off for the summer before having her reappearance run over hurdles when pulled up last month in testing conditions and that was clearly a run just to blow away the cobwebs. She'll clearly strip fitter for that run and given that she is unexposed over fences, unbeaten over C+D and proven in the conditions I think she'll take a fair bit of stopping Fearghal Davis.

    2.35 Kempton

    Countrywide Flame 7/4


    I don't normally go for something this short but I think Countrywide Flame is a much bigger price than he should be and I expect him to win impressively. Very impressive when the only race fit rival when landing the Fighting Fifth in taking fashion by 12L, last years Triumph Hurdle winner slammed the reopposing Cinders and Ashes who, although will clearly strip fitter for the reappearance, I can't see being anywhere near close enough to landing this. I don't think last years Supreme Novice form is anything to write home about at all and I think its hilarious how short Darlan is in the betting as I think he'll be made look ****e. AP McCoy has said on two occasions that they need to find out if he is a genuine Champion Hurdle horse but if he was really good enough then they should definitely know if he was or not. I expect him to be beaten out of sight and can't even see him filling the places let alone win. If I am wrong (which I will be shocked if I am) I won't be on here to apologise for getting the race so wrong as I'll be at Leopardstown but I think Countrywide Flame will walk this.

    4.45 Wolverhampton

    Illustrious Forest 12/1


    There is no doubt in my mind that this horse is being fiddled with (look at his last and 3rd last runs) and given the eye catching booking of David Probert and falling down to his last winning mark lead me to believe that this is the race they are going to try and land a punt with him. He'll be gambled late on so keep a very close eye on the betting. A triple C+D winner, John Mackie's 4 year old was in belting form around this time last year as he won 3 of 4 races when upped to 1m4f for the first time as his handicap mark shot up from 50 to 71 in a short space of time. His last win came off this mark of 71 where he absolutely sauntered in easily over this C+D at the end of March. I think he's capable of winning off a mark in the high 70/low 80s and if they let the handbrake off him today then I think he'll bolt in. The trainer's form is a slight concern but I think Illustrious Forest is so well handicapped that it probably won't even make a difference.
     
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  17. Ardent1965

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    I can't find anything today. Long Run could win but honestly his form is questionable and he lacks speed so I can see him being turned over. Dynaste should win if Lovcen doesn't spring a surprise. No investment from me. GL everyone enjoy your day. I will be watching only.
     
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  18. OddDog

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    Agreed - lumpy bet at 7/4 for me.

    Have a great day at Leopardstown ROTO <ok>
     
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  19. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    Seasons greetings to all. Boxing Day racing is always a festive favourite and first drew my attention to the sport with family days out at Huntingdon many years ago. I see that fixture was canned earlier in the week and the remaining meetings will all be racing on heavy/quagmire type surfaces. Will make it even harder to find the winners. However a few to give me a run for my cash:
    Glenford Dorie 10/1 1.20 Wetherby
    Carruthers 4/1 Fos Las 3.30
    Lamps 11/1 Wincanton 2.15
    and of course Countrywide Flame 7/4 @ Kempton

    Good luck to all having a punt today.
     
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  20. GGW

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    Someone must have a Kempton stream.........
     
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