I'm looking at the team that played Newcastle in January this year. ---------------Patrick Kenny-------------- Young------Ferdinand-----Gabbidon-----Hill Mackie-------Derry-----Buzsaky------SWP -----------Helguson---Bothroyd----------- No offence but or current squad is Real Madrid compared to this line up. By your comments I reckon Young would be an upgrade but I haven't really seen him play.
The Monday night game at the start of the season against Newcastle was one of the best I've seen since qpr got promoted. Many of the players had only just come in that week and played Newcastle of the pitch. Don't know how it ended 0 0. No idea where it went wrong from there and that game alone makes a mockery of the statement "needs time to gel"
With respect El Pirata but that team was in 17th when they played Newcastle and this one is where????? Granero, Cisse etc all look fancy on paper but that's no good when they get onto the pitch and they're actually sh*t! I'd take the Iceman back in a heartbeat.
I'm not familiar with Helguson also so he could be an upgrade also. tbh I don't rate Cisse. I think he's more trouble than good to our team. Harry will make this team a good side. The potential is enormous and we've seen names don't play, form does. And you really don't like Granero do you? At the end of the season I'll offer you a piece of humble pie. hope you'll eat it.
In the first few games I did. I thought he did very well. But in the last few he's played he has been sh*t. No ifs buts or maybes. I'll always eat humble pie but you're probably not getting what I'm saying man. Cisse, Granero and all these other dandies no doubt have skill and if they felt like it they could play very well. So I'm not saying they will continue to be sh*t for the rest of the season. Its entirely up to them. What I'm saying is, they have been sh*t so far. Why else did it take us 17 bloody games to get a win?!!
I understand what are you saying and I agree with you. Our performance was sh.it but I can't escape the feeling that Hughes was the main man to blame. From the beginning I never seen anything good in him. His fac.king away record. I don't know have I ever seen worse. Then the sight of him by the sideline. He really gave away the look of Clueless. But players are to blame also. More than once I've seen them casually jogging across the pitch. But we get to Hughes again. A real manager wouldn't allow them to that as we see with Harry. You don't want to run? You'll sit
That team had heart Pirate. They might have been lacking in skill and stature but they played for the club. That was Hughes' first game, we played a very good game and lost undeservedly after Young was turned to easy. Harry is a clever man, he'll sort us out. From Clive Whittingham on LFW: "It was tempting to ask exactly where this team has been hiding – suddenly passionate, hard working and creative after weeks of half arsed attempts to play something sort of resembling football – but it was no coincidence that it came with a balanced team containing just three of the 12 big name signings Mark Hughes inflicted on Loftus Road during the summer. This was the first time this season none of Jose Bosingwa, Julio Cesar, Ji Sung Park, Esteban Granero, Junior Hoilett, and Bobby Zamora had started for QPR and the result was there for all to see."
I agree with you to a point Pirata. Hughes was diabolical, no doubt about it. Utter uselessness personified. Nevertheless, I think the players have actually gotten off lightly on this Board. If they had an ounce of pride in themselves and the Club, they wouldn't have put in some of the shambolic displays they did and the very least they would have done, was try their very best. How many of that squad can hold their hands up and say they did, before Harry arrived? There can be no excuse for the nonchalant manner with which they went about their business, despite having a useless coach. Unfortunately Pirata, I've found that a lot of fans tend to have their favourites and will forgive them all manner of ineptness while wearing our Clubs badge on their chests. Some teams will be rock bottom because they have sh*t players but if they're trying their best, you are proud of them for representing your Club with pride and dignity. Then there are the money-men, which a lot of ours are, and they couldn't give a toss. In that sense, I think a large section of our fan-base have no loyalty to the Club at all. They'd rather fanny about, making excuses for why players don't do their best, when they should be enraged at what way they're treating the blue and white hoops. Fans should leave the players in no doubt as to what's expected of them while they represent QPR and anything less, to me at least, is disloyal to the Club they claim to support.
Can you make that two portions please? I'll be delighted to eat with Swords if Granero can get over his demons and play the way he is clearly capable of. Isn't he supposed to have a degree in psychology? If so a spot of honest self analysis by him wouldn't go amiss. It's fair to say that his being dropped became more and more inevitable as his performances deteriorated over the season. Come to think of it looking at the psychological aspect of it, reinforces the enormous gaffe that Hughes made. Targeting the purchases he actually spent money on was a flawed strategy. Star after star came in from the various Euro superclubs because they are "proven winners". Put them in a side which does not win regularly or at all for the first 17 games and they did not have the mental resilience to dig deep and get us and them out of this mess. That is why Hughes constantly looked so perplexed. Mental image of thought bubble springs to mind with the caption. "What are you doing? That's not what it said on the tin when I bought you. It said Champions League proven winner." His transfer strategy was bollocks. They were bit part players in very good teams and the success they shared in was the result of established success being passed down over years at those clubs and not something that they themselves created to any great degree. Before someone jumps to the defence of Ji Sung Park, yes he scored goals regularly for United. But let's face it when you play in a team which can create so many gilt edged chances every 90 minutes you're going to pop your fair share away. No disrespect to Clint Hill or Sean Derry but if they were signed as cover by United or City and played the odd game in a winning side, they would have as much if not more right to command huge transfer fees as the proven winners Hughes brought in at enormous expense.
Mate I totally agree. But I can't understand why Hughes decided to buy Granero when he already had Faurlin. In the first he played them as a central pair but later on Faurlin got ditched. I don't know if QPR can afford to have a 9 mil player sitting on the bench.
Yorkshire - "star after star came in from various Euro super clubs". I'm not going to waste time defending Hughes, all this retrospective flagellation almost as boring and equally as pointless as the harking back to Warnock. But let's look at this: Cesar Inter Milan - success in my book and Flyer has the stats to prove it Bosingwa Chelsea - no argument, fail Nelsen Spurs - big success, but Spurs not a super club, obviously Fabio Utd - barely played Park Utd - on the fail side, but also barely played Granero Real Madrid - agree failing, but we have all seen the immense potential. Don't write him off too soon. M'bia OM - success in my book Cisse Lazio (not a super club in my book) - the definitive mixed bag Green, Zamora, Johnson, Hoilett - definitely not from Euro super clubs. Diakite Lyons - not a super club, but on the positive side for me I know I've missed a few...... Granero has obviously disappointed recently. He needs to sort himself out, just as Adel did after his petulance at Fulham and his disgraceful performance against Spurs away last year. We gave him the chance, quite rightly and Granero deserves the same, he could be just as influential for us.
I'd have HH from that squad. I might play young over Bosingwa. I'd play Buz over SWP but maybe SWP will improve under HR.
Real Madrid waste plenty of money too. Mackie, Hill & Derry all deserved their recent outings in the starting X1 regardless of the overpaid wasters on the bench or in the treatment room. Helguson would have been a god send also if MH had not been stupid enough to sell him. Hoilett over SWP certainly but that boy really needs to focus on his teamwork and consistency.
Agree about Iceman but he wanted to go I wish people wouldn't keep judging teams on their league position at this time of the year Marathon not a sprint
Great point there mate. I wonder what Stan would say to that? He, along with myself and others, expressed how impressed he was with the sounds he was putting out when he signed. If the stories about him speeding off in his mini are true, coupled with his miserable performances on the pitch, it shows that it was all hot air and sound bites. Is it any wonder, therefore, that fans take what players and Managers have to say so incredulously? Ridiculous post from an increasingly erratic poster. What else are we going to use to judge, the FIFA fair play league? Its almost half way through the season and we've only just got our first win. If you had your way, Hughes would still be in charge despite the damage he wrought on the Club. The type of damage of which, should we not recover from the desperate league position he left us in, could lead us into immeasurable disaster next season in the NPC with a squad full of players bleeding the Club dry and who we can't get rid of.
Well there's no need to be sexist! and you aren't qualified to judge whether I thought this or that ... I don't even know myself! You have to understand Swords you can't just go around spouting racist nonsense. If we do gone down then it will be with whatever manager we have at the time and we deal with that when and if that happens You have just painted hell haven't you you little devil
