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Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Sportydan, May 8, 2011.

  1. Sportydan

    Sportydan Active Member

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  2. di Fredsta!

    di Fredsta! Well-Known Member

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    Best Driver: Alonso
    Worst Driver: Massa
    Best Rookie: Dambrosio (none really)
    Best Team: Red Bull
    Worst Team: Mclaren
    Best Overtake: Button on Rosberg last corner
    Funniest-moment: ???
    Most Surprising Result: Massa ownd by Alonso
    Least Surprising Result: Isnt it obvious?
    Special Mention to: Alonso keeping up with RB
    Race Rating: 8/10

    Best BBC commentator/presenter:MB
    Worst BBC commentator/presenter: EJ
    Best Commentary moment: "hes a pain in the...Microphone"
    Overall BBC coverage rating: 6/10
     
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  3. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Best Driver: All of the top 6 drove very well, but Fernando Alonso takes the prize.
    Worst Driver: Michael Schumacher
    Best Rookie: Di Resta, But the rookies were poor today.
    Best Team: Red Bull
    Worst Team: McLaren. Painful pitstop for Hamilton. Stratagy undid all Buttons good work. Generally slower than i expected
    Best Overtake: Jenson Button on Lewis Hamilton/ Lewis Hamilton on Jenson Button A great clean Duel between team mates
    Funniest-moment: The replays of Various People overtaking Schumacher
    Most Surprising Result: Very bored of Vettel celebrating
    Least Surprising Result: "King of Istanbul" Felipe Massa, 11th
    Special Mention to: The McLaren drivers. They drove great races and i felt sorry to see them both suffer misfortune
    Race Rating: 8/10 I wish the great action would involve the lead

    Best BBC commentator/presenter: Martin Brundle
    Worst BBC commentator/presenter: N/A
    Best Commentary moment: "Jenson will be in trouble by the end of the lap" in response to either DC or a radio message saying something like "Jenson will be having trouble with lewis at the end of the race"
    Overall BBC coverage rating: 9/10[/QUOTE]
     
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  4. genjigonzales

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    Best Driver: Vettel. With no running of note on Friday he nailed qualifying and drove flawlessly in the race.
    Worst Driver: Schumacher, I'm afraid (sorry, Manny). As usual there was some questionable behaviour from him on the track.
    Best Rookie: n/a
    Best Team: Red Bull, I suppose, but I think Ferrari performed well, too.
    Worst Team: Mercedes - didn't deliver on their promise again.
    Best Overtake: Button on Rosberg. Rosberg expected the undercut, Button went around the outside.
    Funniest-moment: The two Renaults squabbling and trying to force each other into an unscheduled pit-stop.
    Most Surprising Result: Kobayashi only finished 10th!!1!1
    Least Surprising Result: Vettel's victory.
    Special Mention to: Perez for trying right to the very end.
    Race Rating: 7/10 I thought it petered out towards the end and I got that half-forgotten but familiar feeling that the finishing positions were decided some time before the end of the race.

    Best BBC commentator/presenter: Brundle today.
    Worst BBC commentator/presenter: EJ. He wasn't too bad today, to be fair, but on principle...
    Best Commentary moment: Brundle's response when Coulthard said Schumacher doesn't know when to stop: "What, you mean in his career or in an overtaking manoeuvre?"
    Overall BBC coverage rating: 8/10
     
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  5. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    Best Driver: Vettel.
    Worst Driver: Petrov/Schumacher.
    Best Rookie: ...(Kobayashi if you count him as one)...
    Best Team: RedBull.
    Worst Team: Mercedes/Sauber.
    Best Overtake: Just Button vs Hamilton nearly every corner when they were together.
    Funniest-moment: Perez with a wing under his car.
    Most Surprising Result: Alonso back on form.
    Least Surprising Result: Mercedes back down to square one.
    Special Mention to: Alonso he did well giving that he is a prat.
    Race Rating: 8/10

    Best BBC commentator/presenter: Brudle
    Worst BBC commentator/presenter: Coulthard - Anti-Schumacher through and through, just would love it if he was a bit more neutral.
    Best Commentary moment: "Well done Michael" praise from Brundle as MSC fought back to hold a position in traffic.
    Overall BBC coverage rating: 7/10
     
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  6. DHCanary

    DHCanary Very Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    To be fair, Coulthard has good reason, Schuey did try to punch him after Spa one year!
     
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  7. BrightLampShade

    BrightLampShade Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Best Driver: Alonso and Vettel who was faultless
    Worst Driver: Schumacher had a mare of a race
    Best Rookie: None impressed me today
    Best Team: Red Bull
    Worst Team: None did worse than expected
    Best Overtake: The Mclaren's going at it
    Funniest-moment: brb
    Most Surprising Result: Alonso
    Least Surprising Result: Vettel
    Special Mention to: Kobi
    Race Rating: 9/10

    Best BBC commentator/presenter: All
    Worst BBC commentator/presenter: None
    Best Commentary moment: brb
    Overall BBC coverage rating: 9/10
     
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  8. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    True, but he should leave it back in the past if he is presenting the race to millions across the country.
     
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  9. DHCanary

    DHCanary Very Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Touche! True, professionalism should dictate that, I guess its hard though after you've spent the majority of your career battling against someone.
     
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  10. Julius Caesar

    Julius Caesar Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Also worth pointing out Michael gave him a lot of ammunition today. Did laugh though when Eddie Jordan asked Coulthard if he felt sad about watching Schumacher struggle. He tried to spin the question, but his face clearly said "No"
     
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  11. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough.
     
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  12. Masanari

    Masanari Active Member

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    Best Driver: Alonso
    Worst Driver: Schumacher
    Best Rookie: None
    Best Team: Red Bull
    Worst Team: Mclaren
    Best Overtake: Mclaren duel/ Button around the outside of Rosberg
    Funniest-moment: Button commenting on Eddie Jordan's and Brundle's shirts.
    Most Surprising Result: Alonso third
    Least Surprising Result: Vettel win
    Special Mention to: Mclaren duel, Buemi's drive, Alonso's drive.
    Race Rating: 8/10

    Best BBC commentator/presenter: Brundle, DC, EJ
    Worst BBC commentator/presenter: Humphrey
    Best Commentary moment: Brundle getting annoyed on the grid walk
    Overall BBC coverage rating: 8/10
     
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  13. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Best Driver: Vettel/Alonso/Koby
    Worst Driver: Schumacher
    Best Rookie: none shone
    Best Team: RBR
    Worst Team: Virgin - at least HRT get 2 cars on the track
    Best Overtake: Button on Rosberg
    Funniest-moment: Button pre race (thanx for that Tambo, I'd forgotten about him taking the p out of Brundle)
    Most Surprising Result: Alonso
    Least Surprising Result: Vettel
    Special Mention to: Jenson 'bully-boy' Button, who has found a new aggressive streak. Kamui, who did what we expected and Buemi who has been stringing some decent performances together so far this season
    Race Rating: 9/10
     
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  14. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    Best Driver: Alonso
    Worst Driver: Schumacher
    Best Rookie: None
    Best Team: Red Bull
    Worst Team: Williams
    Best Overtake: Button on Rosberg
    Funniest-moment: Lap 1, Ham @ Turn3
    Most Surprising Result: Massa 11th
    Least Surprising Result: Vettel 1st
    Special Mention to: Alonso for excellent drive
    Race Rating: 8/10

    Best BBC commentator/presenter: Brundle
    Worst BBC commentator/presenter: None
    Best Commentary moment: Grid walk - "hes a pain in the microphone"
    Overall BBC coverage rating: 10/10

    What do you think Sportydan?
     
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  15. nh-f1

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    Best Driver: Rosberg - after all the problems, its good to see he still managed 5th, despite him beating a Mclaren!!
    Worst Driver: Schumacher - can't knock the fact he never gives up though
    Best Rookie: di Resta - in his usual good position, until his car packed up on him
    Best Team: Renault - very hard to chose, but Renault scored good points, and consistency is up
    Worst Team: HRT
    Best Overtake: The first Hamilton/Button string of overtakes
    Funniest-moment: Jenson 'complementing' Eddie's shirt choices!
    Most Surprising Result: Fearrari getting away with unsafe pit release
    Least Surprising Result: Kobayashi got into the points from starting at the back, even with all those pitstops that were slowing him down
    Special Mention to: Buemi - a good points finish, what looks like a great strategy choice
    Race Rating: 8/10

    Best BBC commentator/presenter: All
    Worst BBC commentator/presenter: None
    Best Commentary moment: Brundle's comments about the annoying German reporter
    Overall BBC coverage rating: 10/10
     
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  16. Delete Me

    Delete Me Well-Known Member

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    Best Driver:Alonso
    Worst Driver:Schumacher
    Best RookiePerez
    Best Team:Red Bull
    Worst Team:McLaren
    Best Overtake:Button on Rosberg
    Funniest-moment:Lewis pit crew almost falling apart
    Most Surprising Result:Alonso taking it to the Red Bull's
    Least Surprising Result:Vettel kicking the **** out of the rest
    Special Mention to:Kobayashi and Buemi
    Race Rating:10/10

    Best BBC commentator/presenter:Eddie
    Worst BBC commentator/presenter:Jake
    Best Commentary moment:Love Brundle's "Look but never stare"
    Overall BBC coverage rating: 9/10
     
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  17. cosicave

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    Best Driver: Although Vettel did nothing wrong, I give this to Alonso, simply because he had more to think about and do; and did it well.
    Worst Driver: Easy: Schumacher. He should not be there. Tacky and amateurish; put to shame by near novices in worse cars.
    Best Rookie: For the first time, this was not di Resta. No outstanding performances here but I'll give this to Perez.
    Best Team: Another no-brainer: Red Bull were virtually flawless: the only team it was impossible to criticise.
    Worst Team: McLaren made several costly errors and were unable to use their planned-for upgrades. But Williams were worse.
    Best Overtake: Hamilton Button/Button Hamilton combination; 1st time around when on equal tyres. - That was the definition of racecraft.
    Funniest moment: Brundle's candour on the grid.
    Most Surprising Result: di Resta had to have a bad day but I confess I expected better.
    Least Surprising Result: Vettel's win
    Special Mention to: Schumacher: it's time to read the writing your wall. - It was written a long time ago and you are still making spiteful moves on better drivers.
    Race Rating: 8.5: very entertaining but with a clear winner who was not challenged.

    Best BBC commentator/presenter:
    Brundle. Witty; human; amusing and with good director skills. He also knows when to stop talking and how to admit his errors. (Legard take note).
    Worst BBC commentator/presenter: Legard. Thankfully he's a thing of the past in spite of the BBC's double own-goal; first in considering him and then giving him a second season! - Ludicrous obstinacy by the Beeb in the face of a public outcry. Still, we must be thankful that they eventually listened…
    Best Commentary moment: Brundle's handling of the RTL guy who's name escapes me, during his grid walk
    Overall BBC coverage rating: 9.7
     
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  18. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    Best Driver: Alonso
    Worst Driver: Schumacher
    Best Rookie: D'Ambrosio
    Best Team: Red Bull
    Worst Team: Williams
    Best Overtake: Petrov on Schumacher
    Funniest-moment: I can't think of any
    Most Surprising Result: Alonso 3rd, didn't think they had that kind of pace
    Least Surprising Result: Vettel
    Special Mention to: Kobayashi
    Race Rating: 8/10 Last season I'd have given that a ten, but we've come to expect so much now. Still loving it, but we can't give every race a ten.
     
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  19. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    This is a very very good point. Expectations alter perceptions, and vice versa. And oddly enough, past perceptions can alter present perceptions too! Very good point A'Glorious: it can be applied to almost anything but is very relevant for F1 right now!
     
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  20. genjigonzales

    genjigonzales Active Member

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    Hmm... like cosicave I agree with your point, and I suppose races should be judged in relation to their own season, but that race...

    Like most people I thought the Turkish GP was very exciting while watching it unfold but, in retrospect, I think the vague sense of ennui I alluded to earlier was due to the fact that nothing much actually happened. Of course there was lots of action and chaos but there wasn't much of a story within the race. Alonso and Rosberg swapped places, Kobayashi came from dead last up to 10th, and Buemi had a good day. Other than that it was very much 'as you were' by the end of the race.

    I must admit, I'm a bit concerned about the 'artificiality' argument taking on a new significance - not in relation to a specific manoeuvre on the circuit but in relation to the outcome of the race. Like the processional races of yore, drivers' finishing positions yesterday owed more to the qualifying result than anything that happened in the race. The new tyres, DRS and KERS might have injected some uncertainty but they didn't really contribute anything to the final result and, for all the overtaking that was done, none of the moves actually stuck to the end of the race (except Alonso/Rosberg, Kobayashi and Buemi).

    It might just have been a one off, and you could equally argue that the fastest cars won and isn't that what we want? But if improved and/or more strategic racing doesn't enable the race to affect the qualifying result then what has it achieved?

    I might be totally wrong to read the Turkish GP that way but it is bothering me, not least because I'm very enthusiastic about the new regs.
     
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