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FIA tells teams DRS will be legal in Monaco

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  1. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/05/08/fia-tells-teams-drs-will-be-legal-in-monaco/

    A terrible decision by the FIA in my opinion. They have completely disregarded the safety concerns with using the device on that circuit. I am glad that Mark Webber feels the same way as I do. Safety is more important than anything else in F1.

    At least the "DRS zone" has been put in the right place, but it's not going to have much of an effect there. So the only effective use of DRS comes in qualifying, where drivers will pushing the car to the limits. Accidents sound like a strong possibility. The FIA shouldn't take that risk, especially with some drivers concerned about their safety.
     
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  2. Prime Minister Cameron

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    Agreed.

    Bad decision.

    About the DRS zone I think it should be in the Chicane after the tunnel, because Sta Devote is quite tight and the chicane is probably the only chance to overtake.
     
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  3. Forza Bianchi

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    I don't even think they'd get close enough to consider an overtake into turn 1.

    The tunnel is a proper corner - downforce is needed there, so DRS can't be open until after the corner (which would make the system useless).

    I don't think we'll see any DRS overtakes in the race, unless a top driver has to overtake the backmarkers (like Alonso did last year) - and even then it would be difficult
     
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  4. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    stupid. I bet you a serious accident will happen in FP1 and then they will ban it for the rest of the weekend
     
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  5. Prime Minister Cameron

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    Good point. Unless your a Red Bull with all that Downforce you wont be able to open in early.

    Even then, they should not need to use it as they are the fastest on the grid so should be at the front.

    And about the backmarkers I think that we should change the 107% rule to a 103% rule as they are easily clearing it now, and in the race they will be lapped many times which will cause chaos for the leaders.
     
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    Surely it'll be a massive benefit given the wing they run. Will it be safe, well thats up to the drivers to choose when to use it.
     
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    Thats true BLS, comparatively it'll be a huge reduction in drag, if the DRS zone is large enough it potentially could be a push to pass, I'm still not sure its safe though.
     
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  8. di Fredsta!

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    Wait for a huge crash and get FIA sued. They need to learn respect. This will end in tears, T1 isnt really a good overtaking spot.
     
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  9. nh-f1

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    Well I say let them see how it is in FP1, more than likely it'll cause an accident, maybe as bad as Ascari's, at least I think it was him that had a big crash at Monaco, didn't he flip over the barrier and into the harbour?

    If, by some miracle, it works safely, I would have to say that it would be on two straights, seeing as Monaco is such a short track. Maybe the start/finish straight and the uphill climb after turn 1, but there's the risk of the barriers there. They are very close, and there's not much room
     
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  10. genjigonzales

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    If it does all go swimmingly - I mean works ok without any accidents - perhaps it will push them towards opening up its use in future races.
     
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  11. Forza Bianchi

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    Another thing... they will be using super soft here.

    Based on testing, super soft degrades very quickly - every lap you are 1.5 sec slower. This means that every lap, possibly even sector, you have no knowledge of grip levels because they are changing so fast.

    super soft + DRS = crash
     
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  12. Masanari

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    I think that they should just get rid of the DRS altogether because once a driver gets within the one second zone then it is very hard for the other driver to get back out of it because the car behind will always have a big speed advantage at one point of the track to stay close, so once they get within one second it seems a bit inevitable that the car will get passed. Another reason is that with KERS and the tyres I do not think it is even needed to help overtaking, all of the good overtakes have happend without the DRS, and especially today (where I think they got the DRS zone wrong) all of the DRS overtakes seemed a bit contrived.
     
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  13. Prime Minister Cameron

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    If not careful:

    Super Soft + DRS + KERS = Massive Crash
     
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    Well, let's hope they are. These are the 23 best drivers in the world. I'm sure they know what they're doing.

    Also, tyre degradation should be lower in Monaco because of the lower speeds.

    Of course the tight perimeters of the circuit will punish mistakes but I think (hope?) all this doom mongering is wide of the mark.
     
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    24. <ok>
     
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  16. genjigonzales

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    23. ;)
     
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  17. Prime Minister Cameron

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    Hmmm... So your either implying that someone will not qualify...??? or your standing by what you said even when you know I`m right.....

    :emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  18. Masanari

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    Or that one driver is cr@p.
     
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    Crap. No ban on bad language here mate.... <ok>
     
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    I do not agree with the negative sentiments expressed early in this thread.

    The only increase in danger is a potential failing of the DRS slot not closing when it should, thus leaving a driver without the anticipated downforce necessary to help braking and cornering. So, failing such a failing, it is entirely within a driver's control and part of his armoury. Irresponsible use of any control which affects a car is potentially dangerous, so why single out just one?

    As I have been saying since its introduction, I believe DRS activation should be entirely at the discretion of any driver who is within 1 second of a car ahead, anywhere they choose! It is - and always should be - up to a driver whether or not he or she drives within safety limits.
     
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