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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Secret ranger, Dec 11, 2012.

  1. Flyer

    Flyer Well-Known Member

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    We would have been better off keeping the NPC team because Barton and SWP were on massive wages and they werent even an improvement on the squad.
     
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  2. QPR Oslo

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    Hoping you are joking SB! The 2 Major bad Football decisions TF made were sacking Colin and bringing in Clueless. Can't blame TF too much for the Managers wrong decisions, signing Barton was a wrong one but understandable to an extent in the situation it was done in the short 10 days or whatever it was Colin had to bring in players. But bringing in Puncheon on loan was no mistake, the mistake was letting him go again! We should have kept him and got him fit, and we'd be scoring a few more goals now than we are with our current forwards.
     
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  3. GoldhawkRoad

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    There's a fair bit of hindsight benefit in this, Oslo. Even NW, having brought Puncheon in, hardly played him. And it was hard for the bloke to shine in the ten minutes he had on the occasional match.

    As for TF replacing NW with Hughes, it has to be looked at objectively, taking into account NW's tactical ineptitude at Premiership level, and at Hughes' reasonable accomplishments in his short managerial career in the Prem. Was TF's decision unreasonable on those facts? I'd say,no, and it seemed he had been vindicated when Hughes made some fair signings, Diakite, Cisse and Taiwo among them, the team seemed to gain a new lease of life taking some great scalps, Arsenal, Spurs, Liverpool etc and survived at the end of the season.

    The fact that thereafter Hughes made decisions that would have embarrassed a Sunday League manager cannot, I'd say, be laid at TF's door.
     
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  4. sb_73

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    Jock, you are so easy to wind up on Warnock.......I knew exactly what you meant, just having some fun with you! Peace.

    Ps, mistake with Puncheon was not playing him, though even Southampton were sick of the sight of him back then.....and I agree with Goldie for the rest of it. We are lucky to have Tony.
     
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  5. QPR Oslo

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    Yeh of course theirs "hindsight". Nevertheless, personally I think Colin would have kept us up and we'd be mid table now, and TF was way too hasty in getting shot of him. Further, he should have looked at Hughes more critically than he did - his record in making good starts with his new Clubs was not good, as it was not with us either, and while he had bought in good players before, and with us, he also bought in the not so good - his scattergun method has been typical throughout his carrer. This evidence that Clueless was not who we needed was available to TF a year ago. They were both Major Bad Football decisions - I know many don't agree about Colin, but while TF didn't have an obviously better manager to take over from Colin which he did not, firing Colin was also a major mistake.
     
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  6. DT3

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    Sorry I can't see how these were bad decisions at all. NW regardless of his excellence work getting the team motivated and winning the Championship then clearly lost the plot IMO. Mark Hughes was at the time a sensational appointment for our club. Puncheon at the time was very poor and IMO wouldn't get into our team.

    We have no time machine, I cannot see your logic at all. Some of the fickle on here have fallen very low and suggest he's rubbish, sell him, buy him etc etc ... Yet our current players could easily walk into most premiership teams and rediscover their form and become superstars again ... as for that so will Mark Hughes work again with another football club and become successful... TF has done done nothing but good things for us at the moment ... the supporters and fans are the ones that have changed their outlooks and I can't understand why they can't see that. Where have QPR come form FFS ... where? and today we slag off players who we couldn't have even thought about just 18 months ago. How is that a way to think seriously about growing a football club?
     
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  7. Swords Hoopster.

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    How the hell is Ozzie fickle? He was calling for COLIN to be given more time and have faith when you were calling for his head!

    Forget hindsight Goldie, at the time there were a number of people who said it was wrong to sack COLIN (even if he was a w*nker!) and I still believe it was the wrong decision.

    But he's long gone now so we should forget about him. Plus he's a w*nker!!! (Ain't that right North? :grin:)
     
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  8. GoldhawkRoad

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    The one thing that is undeniable, Swords, is that when Hughes came in last season, we picked up form. And managed - just - to scrape into 17th place. We can debate until the cows come home, but I don't think that would have happened under NW
     
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  9. Swords Hoopster.

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    Undeniable? Not only is it not undeniable but its simply untrue! Our form didn't pick up at all under Hughes even though he spent millions in the window. You trying to wind me up here Goldie?!!!

    We didn't win a single game against the sh*t teams we all hoped we'd beat. What was it, 7 games? When he came in we were 17th and we finished 17th. If COLIN had of been given the money, I think he would have steadied the ship - beaten the sh*t teams and lost to the good ones and scraped us up also. That's just my opinion.

    But the prick is long gone now and Leeds fans have to listen to his bullsh*t instead!
     
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    You have answerered your own question about why these were bad decisons Dave. You are right we do have good players who could rediscover their form and excel. But you don't have to look any further than our form the last year and the League table to see that sacking Colin and replacing him with Clueless were extremely bad Football decisons - these good players haven't been performing at anywhere near their best, most of this time was under Clueless. I hope TF has learnt from these mistakes and consulted with people who know more about football than he does before he brought in Harry (which I think he did), and will, again, in the future when Harry goes on his way.
     
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    Pick up form when Clueless come in!!!? We didn't pick up form until well into March despite all the players he was able to bring in January, and we only survived by millemeters, hairs breadths and Barton's bad breath!
     
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    Hughes won more points from fewer games. Those pesky facts again....
     
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  13. GoldhawkRoad

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    <laugh> Would I try and wind you up, Swords!

    I don't have all the statistics in front of me but my strong recollection is that when Hughes' new signing clicked in, we became a competitive side that could be anyone on the day.

    Would NW have kept us up with the same money available? I don't think he would but no one can be sure. One thing that can be said in NW's favour is that he was shafted by the Goons before the season started which resulted in panic buys which we are still paying for, Barton and SWP spring to mind
     
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  14. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    Indeed. And how much money did he spend?

    COLIN was going through a very bad run, no doubt about it. But despite the MK performance, I felt we were about to turn the corner. The reason I say this is because I remember thinking it at the time when SSN were announcing his sacking on TV. Warnock was limping towards January with what he had. Given the window I think he'd have kept us up.

    What didn't happen though was our form picking up when Sparky arrived.
     
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  15. superHusky1

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    I think elements of TF's vision for the club were tied up in the preparations for the new season. The signing of Park, for example, cannot be solely attributed to MH, IMO. TF wanted to break Rangers into the Asian market, and by signing Park and then sending Rangers on a tour of Malaysia etc to play a series of Mickey Mouse teams, preparation for the new season was, IMO, disrupted, when we should have concentrated on drilling the team/squad as a unit, not watching them thump some useless opposition 6 nil.

    MH deserves all the criticism he gets; but TF must share some of this blame also.
     
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  16. El Pirata

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    Tony Fernandes &#8207;@tonyfernandes
    We have just bought 100 planes which makes a total of 475. To meet the amazing demand in asia.

    He's doing quite well with his other business that isn't QPR
     
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  17. Flanman

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    And to think that people were slagging TF off for staying out of the country and not meeting with Harry because I quote " He had **** all else to do"

    Dimwits!
     
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  18. Azmi

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    Air Asia maybe but that's only until the bumiputra malays bring him down, probably that's why he's moving to Jakarta where money can buy you anything.

    I'll give it a couple of years before the **** hits the fan.
     
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  19. QPR12thman

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    Rather harsh. Buying planes doesn't explain his whereabouts for the past three weeks. He loves the club too much to stay away for that reason. Or is qpr still a priority?
     
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  20. Flanman

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    What do you mean harsh, or were you one of them slagging him off? Anyway he may love QPR but his first love is Air Asia, might sound strange to you, because this is where it all started and he will use QPR to help make his Airline flourish, he is a business man first.
     
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