I agree, I've stopped talking about it, heck when I talked about it, it was meant to lighten the mood, but now others keep bringing it up.
@Bonstar If you go and read through the threads i am replying to A87 you will see all my points laid out in plain english for him. Despite the fact he cannot articulate a point to save his life i still take the time to respond properly and try to point out the things he has missed. In every thread he resorts to personal attacks very quickly i think its laughable that you'd defend him and suggest its other people who do this to him. If he was capable of reading through other comments and haveing a reasonable debate there wouldn't be an issue.
Awwwwwwwwww, he's accusing me of bullying him - that is truely adorable. I can imagine you with a little "puss in boots" cat eyes looking up at me. It's ok sweetheart i'll leave you alone I was actually trying to lighten the mood with my joke
Absolutely spot on fella Players that we've been raving about don't suddenly become **** overnight, neither does the manager. We're going through a tough patch, but I think we've got it within us to turn it around, as we did last season when people were calling for Wenger to go and for us to sell half the team. I understand that people are perfectly entitled to their opinions about sacking Wenger, I just don't share them, in fact I think it would be the one most catastrophic thing that we could do. I'd also like to know what exactly a new manager could do differently, and give me the specifics, not just non specific statements like 'he's shake things up' or 'he'd attract new players' - What exactly would he do differently with these players that would make an instant improvement. And as Cym asks, how long would people give him before they are on his back ? Do people really think that sacking Wenger will equate with instant trophies ? Because that's what you're saying, sack Wenger because he's not winning trophies.
If we were to sack Wenger, i'd give the new manager 2 years to turn things around. We're a big club, we have money, it shouldn't take long to fix our issues. All we need is a manager willing to give our players a kick up the arse if they don't play well.
Ok so far then we have 'A kick up the arse' As the list of attributes this new manager will bring, any more ?
1.Someone who's willing to take blame after a bad loss, and learn from their mistakes. 2. Someone who knows not to play players out of position 3. Someone who doesn't sign players from France because they're cheaper. 4. Someone who doesn't take any crap from the board.
Defensive Coaching (Lots of rumours abounding that Wenger doesn't let Bould do much) Discipline Expectation (and intollerance for underperformance) Tactical Awareness If you listen to Steward Robson's interview (and I don't tend to listen to ex players etc. who have an axe to grind), he makes points about the training methods etc. at Arsenal compared to Man Utd. Fergie doesn't run the sessions - he employs great coaches to do that. He picks the team, after observing the sessions. Wenger insists on doing everything himself. In the modern game, you can't really handle everything yourself as a manager - training, team changes, tactics, transfers etc. etc. and that's where Wenger is being found out in my opinion. He won't delegate, and he's suffering for it.
I consider Arsenal a big club, along with Spurs, Liverpool, Everton, and Newcastle. But we are not an ELITE club, I consider the likes of City, United, and Chelsea, to be elite clubs, in the category of your Madrid's, Barca's, Juventus, Bayern, and I'd even place Dortmund now as an elite team.
OK, so we are one of 4 big clubs and not one of the 3 elite clubs and yet you expect us to win trophies. Just purely mathematically that seems illogical.
We are an elite club, i disagree with A87 in this respect. We have elite facilities, elite players (allegedly) and we always play in the CL on merit. We're an elite club, we should be doing better.
I think Arsenal are an elite club, or at least should be, which is why I'm so frustrated, with the way we're PLAYING, we're not an elite club, everything about Arsenal, our stadium, facilities, is world class and elite, I often think to myself it's such a pity because when you go to the Emirates, everything about us is elite, but nothing to show for it in terms of actual success. That's why I don't accept the argument that merely getting top 4 is good enough, because I believe our true place is that of an elite club, but we have sadly lost that status because of our under performances and selling of our best players to rivals etc.
We have the 3rd best defense in the PL at present, in terms of goals conceded, behind Man City and Stoke. Just for the record.
City and Chelsea are just small fry clubs that got lucky when billionaire lunatics came along and pumped artificial, obscene wealth into their coffers. It takes more than a sugar daddy to make an elite club if you ask me.
