The Club have not withdrawn their complaints over Liverpool's conduct in the last transfer window and The Telegraph are reporting that a hearing is imminent. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/9659834/Liverpool-braced-for-hearing-over-illegal-approach-for-Fulhams-Clint-Dempsey.html Loathe as I am to resurrect the topic (and certainly I'm not advocating another look at the pros and cons of the case, which we've already discussed), I did wonder if the powers that be may want to use it to take the heat out of the other hearings that are around ? Given that they are potentially more controversial.
I don't think we should rename the gates after Clint. He was great for us and all that, but he's gone now. The Jimmy Hill gates would be a much better choice. If we want something more recent, how about the Bairdinho Gates? What? That wasn't what you meant by 'DempseyGate'? My mistake.
Fulham getting the boot in while they are still on the floor- maybe not in line with club's persona but no objections to giving Liverpool a good hoofing. In my opinion Dempsey was worth £8-12m at the start of the window- because of Liverpool's public interest and Dempsey playing hard ball his value dropped. If it was on the basis of his on-field performance then fair enough, but because of another clubs interest then we should be compensated.
DempseyGate - the "gate" is a historical reference to Republican (Watergate) break-in and electronic bugging of the Democratic Headquarters, located at the Watergate Hotel, by burglars Oliver North, Mark Clattenburg and John Terry. I'm basically done with the Dempsey business, but Silky does make a point: if the underhanded wheeling and dealing of Liverpool reduced the value of Dempsey (I suspect it did), the we ought to be compensated, though I can't in my wildest hallucinations picture how they'd do that. Liverpool did bad (like the Republicans in 1972), so they should be punished somehow to send a message to the league.
First thing I'd do if his agent is found to be guilty of knowingly negotiating with Liverpool before any approach had been made then I'd take away his license. Any bonus that was due to Dempsey from Fulham or signing on fee from Tottenham is given to a Fulham charity. You'd then heavily fine Liverpool for bringing the game into disrepute as it is the 3rd time they've been complicit in a complaint. And since it's their 2nd time found guilty, a suspended 6 points deduction should they do it again.
You're mistaken, DR, John Terry wasn't involved in the bugging, he just took off his track suit to celebrate with the others after they'd finished.
Liverpool have made a grovelling apology for their behaviour and it looks as though Fulham (that is, MAF) will withdraw the complaint. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2246676/Liverpool-apologise-Fulham-Clint-Dempsey-tapping-affair.html Bit late, but rather typical of the current Liverpool menage. Do you think it might be a precursor to them trying to sell somebody to us (or worse buy somebody) in January ?
Interesting ... hopefully this puts the issue to bed. There's no doubt Dempsey was sold cheap as a result of Liverpool's underhanded dealings, but I can't imagine how Fulham would ever collect that difference from Liverpool.
The Club have issued a formal statemnt : Having denied any culpability for so long, Liverpool clearly realised that the evidence was stacked against them and have gone for 'damage limitation'. I sincerely hope we have got some 'damages' from them since pursuing the action must have cost a bob or two. As usual though the whole matter has dragged on thanks to incompetence by the FA and no doubt they'll be relieved that the clubs have drawn a line under it without them having to adjudicate. A Kop out you might say !!
I think the PL/FA are still investigating, they haven't yet dropped the case, so Liverpool could still get some sort of punishment (though I doubt it). Quite why it's taken four months to investigate is beyond me.
You are all speculating and pissing in the wind. None of us know what was said in the conversation between Werner and your chairman. None of us have seen the full text of the letter. Therefore none of us know what exactly was being apologised for. Methinks that there may well be some creative PR going on here - an action that your chairman has been proved to be experienced in. IF that is the case then we too can have some great fun demanding penalties to be imposed. As for Dempsey - you may need him, we have proved that we didn't
Alright Princess, calm down! You must be a Liverpool fan. You certainly didn't need Demps - you made your worst start to a season, in, what, 50 years? All by yourselves How does anything you've said make sense - if Werner didn't apologise for the tapping up, then why would Fulham publish a statement saying he did as much, then drop the complaint? And if there is some kind of deal being struck, how does that absolve you of any blame at all?
Read what has been published again. Fulham have not been specific about what has been apologised for and none of us know if the complaint would even have been acted upon. BTW our worst start for 50 years still puts us 3 places above Fulham
I think you better had. I'll highlight the important bits, I'm good like that: Not sure how that is vague in any way. The complaint was acted on because the league were investigating it. I know being delusional is part of being a scouser, but you're pushing it! Quite astounding how far you've fallen - last season you only finished 8th - one place ahead of us - on goal difference. The way your sort swagger about like you're still a big deal, you should be celebrating more than being 3 places above little old Fulham, but there we are. It's quite funny, really!
Fair point, we should stick to reading what's published on official websites owned by the club... oh, wait a minute, that means you signed Dempsey in the summer.
As I said above Liverpool had already been fined for previous transfer Tapping-up and were probably worried they would get a suspended points deduction this time and a bigger fine. I would just like to see Dempsey's agent having his license taken away if there was any underhand negoiations. Because players agents seem to be the ones touting.
So what if Dempsey's agent was the one that caused the confusion? Also you point out LFC getting done in the past for 'tapping up', i'm guessing you mean Ziege 10yrs ago?(we got a £60k fine i think), but Fergie was caught bang to rights tapping up Stam yet your club still done business with him a tapper upper.(Berbatov),so dont take the moral highground. Anyway its almost Christmas and Dempsey is happy where he ended up, more money in his bank account and a lesser profile and Mo got money for a want away player so its all good for Fulham.
What relevance does this have? We didn't tap up Berbs, Fergie didn't tap any of our players up? You're clutching at straws here.
