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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Dec 5, 2012.

  1. andy payton's mullet

    andy payton's mullet Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't surprise me. I normally set cruise control to 52 (cos I like to be a rebel), and the amount of people who fly past me doing at least 60 is unreal
     
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  2. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    There was loads on my course who knew nothing about driving or the highway code too, can't remember any examples as it was years ago but I remember an old granny literally knew nothing, she got everything wrong.

    Cameras are set to have a 10% leeway on the limit, so a 60 limit would flash at 66mph etc. so I thought the average cameras would anal rape you at 55. However OLM did the 'how to get away with speeding' course recently so is probably right, they teach you all that kind of stuff there. Remember your car says your doing 2/3 mph faster than you really are to help keep under the limit, old cars can be well unaccurate. My old 1994 corsa I had years ago, I had it screaming its nuts off down the motorway in 5th, speedo said 117, sat nav said bang on 85, so that was quite some way off.

    Also with the average speed, I don't know if they fixed this (it was actually a dodgy law that made it like this but it may have been sorted) but they couldn't track you over lanes, that's why theres always signs saying stay in lane. If you switched lanes between every camera you could go as fast as you like.
     
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  3. PLT

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    That police van that always sets up on the very start of the A63 in Hull, just near the flyover, pisses me right off. It always faces its camera towards the town centre to catch people coming out of town. It's still a 40 limit at that point which becomes 70 about 50 yards up the road. They're obviously just trying to catch people being a little bit hasty in accelerating to the higher speed limit, which really hurts no one and causes no problems, yet on the other carriageway people are supposed to be slowing down to 40 to get ready for the city centre, that's the side you want to be watching! Presumably they wouldn't be making as much money on that side though so they stick to catching people out who are really not doing much wrong.

    Never got a fine from it or anything, but just the placement of it winds me up <laugh>
     
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  4. andy payton's mullet

    andy payton's mullet Well-Known Member

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    I heard that was an urban myth bob
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    From a law site...

    When you pass the first of a pair of average-speed cameras (often used when there are roadworks or lane closures), it takes a photograph of your registration plate, regardless of whether you are speeding or not.

    Another camera further down the road does the same and a calculation is made as to how quickly you covered that distance, which gives your average speed.

    The original situation was that these devices were only approved by the Home Office to monitor a single lane. Recently, however, their remit has been extended to cover multiple lanes, so changing lanes will not prevent a speeding ticket.
     
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  6. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    Definitely not an urban myth, it's tried and tested including my own personal tests.

    And IS, they can't do speed traps within 200 yards of a speed limit change. I saw a copper doing them ON a speed limit change a few months ago, I pulled over and had a word, threatened to report him and e actually moved!

    There's a website and in newspapers you can see where all the mobile speed traps will be each month and the dates/times that they'll be doing them.
     
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  7. andy payton's mullet

    andy payton's mullet Well-Known Member

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    Every day's a school day <ok>
     
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  8. PoolTiger

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    On the speed awareness course that I was on several years ago at the Grange Park, Willerby, a middle aged woman who was sat at the front fell asleep and snored really loudly. The guy taking the course stopped talking and just stared at her for several minutes whilst the rest of us on the course pissed ourselves....he was well less than impressed and eventually woke her up and read her the riot act...hilarious!
     
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  9. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    How does that square with the oft quoted one on Daltry St?
     
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  10. John Ex Aberdeen now E.R.

    John Ex Aberdeen now E.R. Well-Known Member

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    In Scotland if you set your cruise control at a whisker under 80 in a 70 speed limit area, it doesn't activate the camera.
     
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  11. Northyorkstiger

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    Coming back from Manchester airport a few weeks ago, I was in a similar position, and I've not heard anything, There were people going alot faster than me aswell.
     
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  12. andy payton's mullet

    andy payton's mullet Well-Known Member

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    I think any notice of intended prosecution has to be sent within 14 days of the alleged offence
     
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  13. The Omega Man

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    Indeed it is and the offence has to be dealt with within a six month time limit. I was let off last year as it took them 7months to tell me.

    Parking fines are also time limited. The fine has to be resubmitted to the court after a year. But it can be reissued, but all costs start from scratch.
     
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  14. RicardoHCAFC

    RicardoHCAFC Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    10% is the sual guide I think, so anything over 77 should.

    The way you get back at the bastards though is to stick to following the law.
     
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    The police officer on my course said it was 10% + 2 mph.
     
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  16. bigfattiger

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    unsure as to how genuine it was but I recently saw a newspaper article about a couple of cops with a speed gun up near Berwick. the gun flashed at something like 700mph then shut down. turns out it had clocked an RAF tornado. the police chief wrote a stern letter to the RAF and got a genius response back saying that the tornado has recognised the gun as hostile radar equipment and blocked it. Then the tornado's automatic missile engagement system had locked onto the gun and the quick thinking pilot had to override it to prevent firing.

    Bet the 2 coppers **** themselves reading that.

    Like I say, unsure how true it is but it's a nice little tale.
     
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  17. Amin Arrears

    Amin Arrears Well-Known Member

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    I can confirm that's a true story fat tiger, read about it when it happened many moons ago. Shame it didn't fire
     
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  18. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Speeds guns and cameras are only accurate within certain speed ranges, it's a part of the reason you don't see them in 20mph zones.
    If you drive through fast enough you can make the second radar ping miss you so it can't calculate a speed. I think on current equipment, the speed is just 24,000 mph.

    What happens if you go through them backwards. For example, if you cane it down spring bank west and as you see the camera on the opposite side, drive on the wrong side of the road so you're driving through the speed trap in the wrong direction. Would it give you a negative speed?
     
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  19. dazzar86

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    [video=youtube;W9e-txPOoEw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9e-txPOoEw[/video]
     
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  20. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Camera's are a far bigger problem than coppers, as they lack flexibility.

    You pass a camera(permanent or otherwise), at more than 10% over the speed limit and you'll almost certainly get nicked. But if you drive up the M1(without doing anything daft), then you won't get pulled unless you go over 85(confirmed by OB, so it's official).

    I don't mind getting nicked by a copper, it's almost certainly going to be my fault, but I always resent getting nicked by a camera, as it's a carefully positioned fund raising/crime solving exercise.
     
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