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  1. MackemsRule

    MackemsRule Well-Known Member

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    Not trying to start any bigotted arguments. <ok>

    But as an outsider looking in, the decision to take down the Union Flag in Northern Ireland seems to be a deliberate attempt to wind up people. (And it is working!)
    Surely whilst NI is still part of the UK it is still their flag?
     
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  2. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    lots of them died fighting for the flag, seems dopey to me, just to appease ex terrorists
     
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    No. It's supposed to be a shared country of equals. It's still unequal, the flag of one side of the community will still be shown, only on specific days, while the flag of the other community will not be shown at all. There is no obligation to have any flag flying at all over the hall
     
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  4. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    talking out of your arse again eh, NI is a separate entity to the republic,and as far as im aware Adams and his murdering scum bag cronies, don't have a flag, and even if they did, terrorism should never be rewarded.
     
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    What's terrorism roger? Shooting dead 13 innocents during a civil rights march? The shooting of 11 innocents in Ballymurphy? Who perpetrated those acts of terror?

    Nowhere have I advocated the erection of a tricolour onto the building, like I said there is no obligation for the building to fly a flag of any sort which is why the removal of a bit of cloth as a measure of evening things up (as nationalists now hold a democratic majority in the council chamber they have every right to do) is no excuse for the violence and death threats that have resulted.
     
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  6. MackemsRule

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    NI is part of the UK correct?
    The UK flag is the Union Flag yes?
     
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    MR you start your post by saying not trying to start a bigoted argument but that's exactly what your doing.
    Thought we'd got past this but obviously not.
     
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    I'm not disputing that but can you find me where it is stipulated that the building MUST fly this particular flag
     
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  9. Makemstine Roger

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    the tricolour is another nations flag, and will never go up

    and dont get me started on innocents, so who was throwing the bottles and stones,setting property and cars on fire, who organised a banned march attended, and went with the sole purpose to maim or kill innocent paras there to protect said public, from the vicious thugs who turned out, you dont mention how many troops were maimed and injured for life before retaliation took place.
     
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  10. MackemsRule

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    No it isn't!
    It was an honest question.
    NI is part of the UK.
    Until that changes the Union Flag is their flag.

    So as I stated taking down the flag is guaranteed to cause unrest.

    Unless I have missed the recent riots from the protesters wanting the flag taken down.
     
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  11. Hash.

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    OP and AmsterdamRoger <doh> clueless ****s

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    T.A.L.
     
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  12. MackemsRule

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    I'm incorrect in thinking NI is part of the UK still?
     
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    Army fired first shotThe Prime Minister said:
    • No warning had been given to any civilians before the soldiers opened fire
    • None of the soldiers fired in response to attacks by petrol bombers or stone throwers
    • Some of those killed or injured were clearly fleeing or going to help those injured or dying
    • None of the casualties was posing a threat or doing anything that would justify their shooting
    • Many of the soldiers lied about their actions
    • The events of Bloody Sunday were not premeditated
    • Northern Ireland's Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness, Sinn Fein, was present at the time of the violence and "probably armed with a sub-machine gun" but did not engage in "any activity that provided any of the soldiers with any justification for opening fire"


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10320609
     
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    you may have a majority in the house but the total population vote to remain British not Irish Republic
     
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    ****er i was there and know more about it than a cock sucker like you ever will
     
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  16. MackemsRule

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    You're nit picking mate.
    No where have I said it must.
    I'm looking in from the outside and it looks like a move designed to cause division.

    I'm on no ones side, they vote and unify Ireland more power to their elbow.
    Be less of a drain on the UK's resources as far as I can see.
     
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    Why was a peaceful march that was simply calling for equal rights banned? Is it not s right to demonstrate, is there not a right to protest? But it seems Catholics had no rights st that time so defiance of a banning order was very apt in this case.

    Maim or kill innocent paras? Please tell me you are joking.
     
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  18. Hash.

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    No , you're clueless for your fishing trip, people born in N.I. have the right to choose Irish or UK citizenship so why should those that choose Irish have the Union flag put upon them ? It's all in the Good Friday agreement.
     
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    Did ya get a medal ?
     
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    [*]Northern Ireland's Deputy First Minister Martin McGuinness, Sinn Fein, was present at the time of the violence and "probably armed with a sub-machine gun" but did not engage in "any activity that provided any of the soldiers with any justification for opening fire"


    a known murderer and a leader in the Ira, was there thats who got the people shot.by his organisation skills
     
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