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Guardiola for UTD.. anyone?

Discussion in 'Manchester United' started by shwan, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. shwan

    shwan Well-Known Member

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    ok sure he want to snub joke club like chelsea with FFP behind and a crazy spoiled owner .. who blame him? <laugh>
    but he seem to be ready to wait another year to replace Sir Alex
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag.../Pep-Guardiola-wants-Man-Utd-manager-job.html

    in last voting poll i made 3-4 weeks ago, he was not even in top4 among UTD fans fav choices ... so just wondering if that changed now if he is really interesting to manage UTD ?

    sure news are far from being certain .. but do you actually see him as a good replacement for Sir Alex?
     
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  2. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    In my opinion you need a stronger manager than Pep - in my eyes he's still relatively unproven. Yes he did amazingly well at Barca, he he was surrounded with world class players that knew each other inside out.

    Fergies shoes will be near on impossible to fill as lets be honest he is Man Utd. For me a better shout would be Mournino, much more experienced, and clearly more passionate about the game than pep.

    But hey, I'm no Utd fan - just offering an outside view.

    The bad thing is that money talks, so City and Chelsea could quite possibly have those two in the bag by then. And lets face it, stepping into Fergies shoes must be a daunting prospect.

    I didn't open the link as it's the Sun. I'm guessing it's a story that's been sensationalised to the absolute max.
     
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  3. Chief

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    There's a thread for this!
    <whistle>

    Seriously though, there seems this assumption from Chelsea fans that Guardiola will be going there this summer when the reality is he wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

    He'll be United manager, rightly or not, this summer. Already stated so and am sticking to it.

    Morning Sky old bean.
     
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  4. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag.../Pep-Guardiola-wants-Man-Utd-manager-job.html

    PEP GUARDIOLA is ready to snub Chelsea because he wants to boss Manchester United.

    Blues owner Roman Abramovich is hoping the former Barcelona chief will take over at Stamford Bridge next summer.

    But Guardiola, who is on a year&#8217;s sabbatical in New York, fancies moving in at Old Trafford when Alex Ferguson retires.

    That could be at the end of this season.

    If not, Guardiola would be prepared to hold out for another year.

    Fergie and Guardiola are close friends and have met privately in New York.

    A source close to Guardiola said: &#8220;The whole history of Manchester United, his relationship with Sir Alex and the way the club is run appeals to Pep.

    &#8220;Right now I&#8217;d be astonished if he went to Chelsea. He really wants to wait for the United job even if it means extending his time out of the game.&#8221;

    Guardiola wants to be able to concentrate on all aspects of the football club without interference from above.

    Red Rom&#8217;s constant hiring and firing of managers &#8212; interim chief Rafa Benitez is his ninth boss in a decade &#8212; does not appeal.
     
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  5. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    Morning Ruff me ol mucker <ok>

    Would you be happy with Pep? I'm not sure if I would if I were a Utd fan - but to be fair you won't get another Fergie, as much as I hate to say it he's in a league of his own.
     
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    Unsurprising - Guardiola never seemed like the kind of manager who would suit the pressure that comes with having Roman's axe over your neck at all times. Utd would probably be a much better fit - the owners have shown they are willing to be patient and support the manager without undermining him in public or in private like some bosses do.

    That said, Benitez could be ideally suited for Chelsea right now - he always seems to do his best work with inherited sides, and then take them rapidly downhill as he tries to rebuild them in his own image. The Chelsea ejector seat will at least make sure he doesn't get long enough to damage Chelsea the way he damaged Liverpool and Inter (tho he only needed six months at Inter...)

    I'm sure LFC fans said the same about Shankly, then his physio ended up being even better! We'll never get someone the same as SAF, but there's a chance we may get someone who can take his team and achieve at the same level for another few years. That's gotta give you cold shivers down the spine ;)
     
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  7. Chief

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    I've thought Moyes would be a good fit or Mourinho for a mad, and doubtless successful, three or four years.

    Guardiola wouldn't be my first choice but i wouldn't mind at all. His achievements are underestimated if anything. There seems to be this incorrect attitude that he was lucky to have the players and the success was moving to do with him.

    That's bollocks quite frankly.
     
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  8. Paulpowersleftfoot

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    Chelsea is not the club for a manager whose stock is as high as Peps.
    It's a job for the long term unemployed or chubby Iberian maitre D's masquerading as one
    Wouldn't surprise me to see Solskjaer given a chance rather than Pep
     
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  9. Ivor Biggun

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    Im not convinced Barcelona's success was down to him, he might very well be a great manager but so far his only success is at a team which is chock full of world class players and even then ive only ever seen Barca play the one way.

    Is he really going to commit long term to an English club as well? id like the next United manager to be here at least 10 years provided he's good enough.
     
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  10. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    Ideally that's what most clubs want though, but it'll be interesting to see just how much time the next manager will be given.

    Barca only played one style, albeit effective, under Pep. Though they bought players, and produced players who could play in the system so they were ultimately playing to their strengths. My fear is Pep would try and force the players we have now to play the way Barca played for the past 3 years. He may be a great manager at United, but we'll only find out if he does become the next manager. I'm still pulling for OGS, just won the Norwegian league again a few weeks ago.
     
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    A lot of that side, Messi and Iniesta admittedly not, were under Rijkaard and were misfiring. Xavi was a run of the mill CM on the verge of leaving before he came in, what Guardiola brought to it can not be overstated.

    Yes, he has a great bunch of players but the style and so therefore the success is all his. No plan B, quite correct, but when plan A brings such rewards did he really need one?

    I think it's an assumption that he hasn't got the footall nouse to find a plan B and he is very clearly a great man manager.

    Does that remind us of anyone? Ferguson is a superb man manager and a lamentable coach, he's not been too shabby with us and I think Pep could quite easily do likewise.

    Like I have said, still not 100% convinced he's my personal choice yet but I would not complain at all if he got it.
     
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    Im not convinced that Gaurdiola is the right man for the job, i think his lack of adaptability in terms of strategy would not work in the EPL, United could play some great football under him, however i think that unless Guardiola adapted his tactics to include proper crossing, and a proper plan B to use against teams with all 11 men behind the ball.

    Personally I think that if we win the league this year, or maybe even not someone like Moyes is more likely to get the job, especially convenient that his contract ends this season too. Although unproven with a regular champions league team, his man management, and the way he can get the full 100% out of his players is very similar to Ferguson which would appeal. Plus he seems to have a good eye for a midfielder or two, so he could help us move on post Scholes and Giggs (though I must say that with Fletcher, Cleverly, and probably Anderson we have a good start there)
     
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  13. Skylarker

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    The bit in bold is exactly why I don't get these 'cold shivers' - In fact Swarbs I get a warm glow instead :)
     
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  14. Style

    Style 'where is the love'

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    I think like me the more sensible fans are quite happy admit its not that likely that anyone will repeat the same sort of succes as Sir Alex but with the way the club is set up we should be challenging for stuff near enough every year.
     
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    I would prefer Mourinho. Guardiola could be ok. I think United needs someone who can stand up to criticisms. There will be many most of them very petty.

    M will be self assured. He will have operated at that level before. He has won premiership and championship titles ( some in this country). SAF shoes are huge to fill so any replacement will need all the best qualifications available. And importantly he has managed under pressure and the weight of expectations at Chelsea and Madrid. This is definitely not the job for the unproven. <ok>
     
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  16. Swarbs

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    Guardiola also ditched a lot of the big name players from Rijkaard's side - Ronaldinho, Deco, Edmilson, Zambrotta and Thuram all out and replaced with youngsters and relative unknowns like Pique, Pedro, Busquets and Keita. Sound familiar? Crazy decision cos, as everyone knows, you'll never win anything with kids.

    This. SAF rarely has a plan B either - it's just attack, attack, attack, bring on Hernandez if we're losing. With a plan B we could have beaten Bayern, Bayer, Porto and Real in the CL when our attacking tendencies let them equalise or take the lead at crucial times, and we needed a massive comeback in 99 after plan A saw Juve score twice in ten minutes. Just as SAF brought in Queiroz to give him the plan B in Europe, so Guardiola can do the same.
     
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    That is why with SAF at the helm, if we are not firing I almost wish for the opposition to score early. A 0-0 stalemate rarely produces any response from him until it is very late. Everton, Norwich. Yesterday I was glad when QPR scored early in the 2nd half. That caused him and the team to attack with more pace. This season we have to bloody wait until we are down to change style and formation.
     
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  18. shwan

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    Pep snubbing Abra is logical .. only loser like Rafa will do accept such a job
     
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    I'd be quite happy for David Moyes to take charge. Buys smart, knows the premier league very well and always does well with Everton. Not much European experience but then Fergie never does that well in Europe anyway!
     
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  20. Manobear

    Manobear I love cheeseburgers

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    Shwan, I think any manager that has any ambitions to become a successful manager wouldn't go to Chelsea. Any manager that wants a fat paycheck will go to Chelsea, high salary and a nice bonus when you get the axe 8 monthst later. Someone like Mourinho and Pep can get a job almost anywhere on reputation alone and would get high wages from the start. Most clubs would avoid Benetiz after his demolition of CL winning Inter.
     
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