He has a good record of getting teams promoted no doubt but I think he's bitten off more than he can chew with your club. That's a underhanded compliment by the way.
What I would say is that if Colin did get you promoted would he be given the chance at a crack at the PL? I'd be surprised if the answer was yes. My opinion is worth **** all but I reckon he'll be gone before too long and your new owners will want to install a manager who can get a team promoted and keep the momentum going. Something Colin just isn't capable of. I'll now get told to mind my own ****ing business and to get back to my own board. Oh and I'll get called a daft ****.
It's a difficult one. I always feel a manager should be given a chance in the above league following a promotion, but Warnock's record in the premier league suggests he's not the greatest at that level. However, I would be willing to give him a chance until christmas. He didn't have a great pre-season to sort out his squad at QPR and he very nearly stayed up at Sheff Utd, if it weren't for some dodgy dealings from West Ham. But again, your point is valid and Warnock's premier league record is hardly something to shout about.
**** off you thick ****, football is a psychological game just as much as any other game. The crowd play a big part in that, as the players often reflect the attitude of the fans. Failure to recognise how much of an impact psychological factors have on the game is the reason England continuously underperform, and consequently why players keep getting picked based on how good they are on paper rather than how well they ACTUALLY play for England. Also, nobody in England genuinely believes we can win anything, and that transfers from the downbeat attitude of the crowd straight onto the pitch where the players fail to produce. Of course it's not all that's needed, I never suggested that. But to suggest it's wrong to believe we will get back to the top because it's "delusional" is bollocks. We have everything a potential top club needs - money, fanbase, catchment area and the belief that we can actually get there. Just because you don't believe you'll ever make it, and Leeds just happen to be in the same division as you, it does not mean we're in the same boat. We're a significantly larger club, with better potential for success and better prospects. Until we spend a significantly longer time in obscurity without making any progress, that will continue to be the case. Don't be bitter, just accept it and **** off. And remember you're a poxy little nobody club that we don't give a **** about.
Point of order, CG is not a thick ****, he's posted his opinion articulately and with the odd bit of sarcasm and humour. We know you don't care. Equally, we know we're not poxy. Fortunately, we're not patronising either.
When do you start to think from another Club's perspective in any of that? Yes, you are a larger Club, yes the potential for you becoming a Premier League side is certainly there, but your squad ability definitely isn't getting you anywhere anytime soon. We have rich owners, a manager with Premier League experience and a great side this Season, but that seems to elude your attention because your so behind your "Belief" that you don't realise you're not supporting the only Club with Promotion Credentials this Season. Time to stop being bitter and realise that we are going to be a rather regular opposition for you in either the Premier League or the Championship.
The argument isn't about what we'll manage this season. It's about you lot coming on here calling us delusional for genuinely believing we'll make it back to the top. There's nothing delusional about it, I've already explained why it's perfectly reasonable to believe it and why I'd rather believe it than think "realistically" and "have some humility" as some clown put it.
You were a big club, you obviously have the potential to be a big club agan, but the reality is that you've been ****e for years and it's a little early to be discussing a Champions League place.
We've done it before, we believe we will do it again, if you don't like it **** off any of you lot done it?
In the context of your OP which is what I was basing my argument on - I stand by my words - remember what you said? Next three or four years. That context has been lost in this thread, especially by Marko who has seen it as nothing other that an all out assault on his supported club. It is impossible to say what is going to happen in the long term and maybe one day Leeds will make it back up to the top of the pyramid, maybe not. With the seemingly endless succession of wealthy foreigners prepared to inject money in to the English game, in the long term just about any club in the top 2 divisions could also have the opportunity to be one of the big boys and unfortunately that is where the blinkered view comes in to play as fans only look at their own club, never considering the possibility that other clubs might actually be able to achieve the same as Leeds or more in future years I am not Leeds ignorant but I am sure will continue to say that. That being the case I would suggest then you are equally ignorant of the fact that there a lot of teams that have the potential, under the right circumstances, to be as big if not bigger than Leeds Utd. Unless you really can predict the future I cannot see how you can argue the point.
It doesn't just take money, which is why QPR are languishing around the bottom. They won't be able to attract the players because they are a small time club. The same goes for most of the clubs around the bottom of the Premier League and in the Championship.
As of today, I fully agree. However, if they can manage to survive this season, show improvement over the next 2 season and get their new big stadium, they will be in a position to kick on, hence the potential is there - if they get it right on and off the pitch. That's all it takes, a wealthy man and a good all round team below him, it could happen anywhere, maybe even Southampton as they have already got a decent sized ground in place and excellent academy etc.
Which is why I said 'most' teams in the top 2 leagues as opposed to all. Wigan, Barsnley etc have never had much of a following at any level and they are very small clubs. However, Leicester, Cardiff, Boro, Wolves and most teams currently in the top half the Championship do have the potential + most of the bottom half of the PL, that is what I am trying to say.
I wouldn't have even gone that far, but I suppose that is just a matter of opinion. I stand by my opinion that the fans themselves have to genuinely believe it.
Nowt wrong with the fans having belief but as the boardroom level of the game has changed the balance of power, the future can never be certain and the field certainly is not level like it was back in your real glory years under DR, indeed it is not as level as it was when the PL started either. Norwich were a force at that time, the chairman screwed it up and unless we get the backing of a rich Asian or Arab, we will not get back there. Even if we do get the backing of wealthy investors, getting back to that level cannot be a nailed on thing but we will hopefully have a larger ground by the time that happens, then maybe we will start to believe too .
**** me Yuri's off on one again. Look into my eyes, look into my eyes, not around the eyes, look into my eyes. I'll have whatever Marko's on please landlord.
