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A good insight. If his ex club still hold him in such high regard even with some of his short comings (some bad signings, public rumblings with the board, 'fact' conference) he must have done something right. I don't see him as the long term answer as Roman wants a more entertaining coach but in the short term, we could have done a lot worse. Any one who won the C.L with that Liverpool side deserves some respect.

He had a rant against Fergie. Thats why they love him. The only thing above that is the CL win which is fair enough. Other than that what else is there to love. Many complained about him none stop when he was in charge. His awful transfer, rotation and tactical policies. His none existent man management. His attempts to get involved in mind games with other managers that just caused more issues for his own club.

The mans a clown, nothing more too it.
 
He had a rant against Fergie. Thats why they love him. The only thing above that is the CL win which is fair enough. Other than that what else is there to love. Many complained about him none stop when he was in charge. His awful transfer, rotation and tactical policies. His none existent man management. His attempts to get involved in mind games with other managers that just caused more issues for his own club.

The mans a clown, nothing more too it.

He had his moments but he won won of the greatest C.L finals ever with a pretty average side, got to another final, won a cracking FA cup final, consistently got top 4 and for every bad purchase there was an Alonso, Torres and Mascherano.
 
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He had his moments but he won won of the greatest C.L finals ever with a pretty average side, got to another final, won a cracking FA cup final, consistently got top 4 and for every bad purchase there was an Alonso, Torres and Mascherano.

Bold bits dont matter. He won them. No extra points for them being the best or worst.

Consistent top 4. Fair enough, though a 5th and 7th place finish are poor considering the £229million he spent. 2nd place once.

He made like 100 signings ( probably less but cant be bothered checking ) and had 3 or 4 decent ones. So he was terrible in the transfer market.

When he signed Torres Liverpool won nothing because he couldnt decide on which was his best side.
 
Bold bits dont matter. He won them. No extra points for them being the best or worst.

Consistent top 4. Fair enough, though a 5th and 7th place finish are poor considering the £229million he spent. 2nd place once.

He made like 100 signings ( probably less but cant be bothered checking ) and had 3 or 4 decent ones. So he was terrible in the transfer market.

When he signed Torres Liverpool won nothing because he couldnt decide on which was his best side.

They were in bold to highlight why their fans love him even more.
 
They were in bold to highlight why their fans love him even more.

Lets get a few things straight about those finals.

Liverpool being poor for large parts meant to win both they had to come from behind. Better sides would of done the boring stuff and not needed a fightback.

The AC one is fair enough, very very good AC side. West Ham though? Its like coming back to win a game against some pub team.
 
Used to live in West London and had a soft spot for Chavski, it was good you won the Champions League and have 3 good attacking midfielders,

BUT Rafa instead of RDM?? plus your players/club lied to get a Ref in trouble cos' he sent players off...O dear O dear
 
I think most fans would boo Rafa regardless of club.

Chances are hes had a rant about the club you support regardless of who it is. Probably called you cheats, or your fans ****s or your mothers cooking ****e.
 
Barcelona and Real Madrid will both pass FFP though.

If Chelsea do pass it'll be by the skin of your teeth, yeah its unlikely you'll be kicked out if you're showing clear progression, but that means no more spending big. In fact your transfer budget would have to be lower than United, Arsenal, Spuds and even Liverpool's.

If you flout it don't for one second think UEFA won't sanction poor old Chelsea, you're only in it this year thanks to winning it last and you're not up there with teams like Madrid, Barca or United in terms of pulling power.

So yeah, to reiterate my previous point before the need to educate "chelsea - over 100 years of history" with basic 1+1= 2 maths, Chelsea are about to lose the benefits of having a meddling billionaire owner and be stuck with all the negatives.

Your language smacks of bitterness. When arguing your corner it is usually best to strip out the emotion or else no one listens to you. Maybe when you've rid yourself of some angst you can come back and we'll have a proper discussion on FPP.
 
He had a rant against Fergie. Thats why they love him. The only thing above that is the CL win which is fair enough. Other than that what else is there to love. Many complained about him none stop when he was in charge. His awful transfer, rotation and tactical policies. His none existent man management. His attempts to get involved in mind games with other managers that just caused more issues for his own club.

The mans a clown, nothing more too it.

I reckon they love him because of the European Cup win actually, just a guess mind.
 
Your language smacks of bitterness. When arguing your corner it is usually best to strip out the emotion or else no one listens to you. Maybe when you've rid yourself of some angst you can come back and we'll have a proper discussion on FPP.

You're confusing bitterness with the irritability of having to repeatedly explain a really simple concept to an idiot who not only can't understand it but won't.

Im more than happy to discuss FFP in a mature fashion and as soon as I find a Chelsea fan willing to do so I might. Constantly denying its going to have any effect is just naive wishful thinking. Its not even debating the issue, he's just sticking his fingers in his earls and making lalalala sounds.

Lets hear you own oh so very good arguments as to how Chelsea will continue to spend 80 million a season on transfers and avoid FFP then.

Or why, if Chelsea are going to be living within their means, they should put up with a crazy interfering owner?
 
You're confusing bitterness with the irritability of having to repeatedly explain a really simple concept to an idiot who not only can't understand it but won't.

Im more than happy to discuss FFP in a mature fashion and as soon as I find a Chelsea fan willing to do so I might. Constantly denying its going to have any effect is just naive wishful thinking. Its not even debating the issue, he's just sticking his fingers in his earls and making lalalala sounds.

Lets hear you own oh so very good arguments as to how Chelsea will continue to spend 80 million a season on transfers and avoid FFP then.

Or why, if Chelsea are going to be living within their means, they should put up with a crazy interfering owner?

How about you let us worry about it then instead of talking tripe on here that we genuinely couldn't care less about. Concentrate on your own club's means to meet FFP <ok>
 
How about you let us worry about it then instead of talking tripe on here that we genuinely couldn't care less about. Concentrate on your own club's means to meet FFP <ok>

That's a bit rich coming from you.

Just a flying visit to the Chelsea board is it? on your way to the United/Arsenal boards were you?.

Kudos for proving me right btw with you're inability to discuss FFP maturely. Did you make lalalala sounds when you were typing that?

To answer your question though, we're doing fine thank you. We've not exactly been stingy in the transfer market, recently we significantly reduced our debts, our income increases year on year and we have more sponsorship deals coming up for renewal. Happy times ahead.
 
That's a bit rich coming from you.

Just a flying visit to the Chelsea board is it? on your way to the United/Arsenal boards were you?.

Kudos for proving me right btw with you're inability to discuss FFP maturely. Did you make lalalala sounds when you were typing that?

To answer your question though, we're doing fine thank you. We've not exactly been stingy in the transfer market, recently we significantly reduced our debts, our income increases year on year and we have more sponsorship deals coming up for renewal. Happy times ahead.

I talk about football on those boards not boring **** like this, it's a free forum, **** off to a United only one if that's all you're interested in.

To reply to your answer; I couldn't give a flying **** how you're doing, I told you to concentrate on it.
 
FPP will mean **** all. Do you think these billionaires can't find ways to continue to pump cash into these clubs? dream on. Man City have already found one, sponsorship.
 
Lets hear you own oh so very good arguments as to how Chelsea will continue to spend 80 million a season on transfers and avoid FFP then.

Or why, if Chelsea are going to be living within their means, they should put up with a crazy interfering owner?

Precisely why it's a waste of time discussing FPP with you:

Your making assumptions re £80m per season ongoing spending. Do you have some unique insight into what the club intends to do in the transfer market in the years ahead?

You clearly do not understand business re "crazy, interfering owner", the guy is neither crazy not interfering; he merely exercises his right to be involved in his business. For the life of me I cannot see how his involvement impacts on our ability to live within our means. What you imply is that he does not understand the implications of FPP sanctions - ludicrous when you think of the guys obvious business understanding as one of the worlds richest men.

Sounds to me like you want CFC to fail.