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Short term Chelsea better than stable ManU

Discussion in 'Chelsea' started by CPofL KTBFFH, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. Bloo

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    On your bike - 3rd most prestigious trophy and you don't want it. Last time you won your manager and fans were over the moon. And you were well *issed off when we beat you in the New Wembley Stadium 5 years or so back.
     
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  2. Bloo

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    New Millenium:

    Best Team: MUFC.

    Next: Us.

    Then: who gives a crap.
     
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  3. Ivor Biggun

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    Fluky is winning the PL with the last kick or the season or when the domestic rivals of the team you're challenging gift you a back pass in the penultimate game.

    If other teams had a bit less luck and we'd had a bit more it'd be what? 6 PL's on the trot.

    Yeah but no, you guys are totally in the same league as us these last few years. Sacking a manager a year is working our so great for you its hard to see how you could have improved by giving them a chance.
     
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  4. UnitedinRed

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    Honestly pal I cant wait to see us lift it again. Been too long.
     
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  5. Bloo

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    It has been a while.

    I love the FA Cup - in fact I love all knockout competitions and stages.
     
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  6. UnitedinRed

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    As a United fan its been hard to love it for the past few years but overall its a great knock out tournament and even though we havent won it there have been some great ties over the years to enjoy.
     
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  7. Bloo

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    Bugger! I mean't to put CL not PL - too much cheap Aldi BaileysSimilarClone stuff tonight!

    You know the match, the one where the mighty JT skied a pen'.

    That was fluky esp' as we played better than you both halves open play.
     
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  8. District Line

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    United have the least class of any club in the country.
     
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  9. UnitedinRed

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    aw-shucks, you're too kind
     
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  10. Bloo

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    Bloody good team though - does my head in how SAF keeps churning out the results year after year.
     
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  11. District Line

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    Jesus Christ, barely clicked "Post Quick Reply" before UIR had bitten <laugh>

    It is true though <ok>
     
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  12. Swarbs

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    I'd assume it's more because that's the only duration of time over which Chelsea have actually been more successful than Utd. One year earlier or later and the picture changes.

    And he's only been 'short termist' since he sacked Mourinho. So if you're looking to compare on that basis then 2007 is the best starting point.

    In fact, I believe Josie was Chelsea's second longest serving manager since 1985, second only to Ranieri. So it's not as if Roman brought 'short termism' to your club, he just combined it with bags of cash and paid enough money to good managers to make them forget their previous lack of interest in CFC.
     
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  13. CPofL KTBFFH

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    It can't be a year later you tit as it's up to and including today. **** me Einstein you ain't.

    And as I've already said,you need to ask the author of the article why he picked 2005. He is a ManU fan so you take it up with him.
     
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  14. Not PC enough

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    Yeah lets look at last season .

    never got out of the group stages.

    won the community shield.

    Yeah a long way ahead now aint ya. ?
     
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  15. District Line

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    That's a successful season for the 2nd club in Manchester as they are forever in the shadows of their more illustrious neighbours, City <ok>
     
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  16. Swarbs

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    I think you'll find a year later than 2005 is 2006. And since 2006 Utd have won 9 trophies, Chelsea 8. Just call me Albert <ok>

    The author of the article is a Spuds fan, so that should tell you all you need to know about his opinion. Hell, according to him Chelsea have won 9 trophies since 2005 when the actual number is 10 - he obviously struggles with the fact that you've won the LC twice since 2005. Ah, never let maths get in the way of a pointless argument.
     
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  17. One of the lads

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    So what the OP meant was that since Chelsea have had unlimited transfer funds they have been successful. We all know that!
     
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  18. One of the lads

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    Sorry but no.
     
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  19. AndyI

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    All this bickering over which year to start is pointless and childish, save it for the school yard.

    As the Article is pointing out that Chelsea have been as successful as Utd, despite having a completely different approach to Managers under Abramovich, the only sensible staring point is when Abramovich took over Chelsea, which is June 2003, so lets take it the 03/04 season onwards.

    In that time: (Runners up in Brackets)
    Chelsea Utd Arse Pool
    PL 3 (4) 4 (3) 1 (1) 0 (1)
    CL 1 (1) 1 (2) 0 (1) 1 (1)
    FA 4 (0) 1 (2) 1 (0) 1 (1)
    LC 2 (1) 3 (0) 0 (1) 1 (1)
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    TOTAL 10 (6) 9 (7) 2 (3) 3 (4)

    Managers 8* 1 1 4**

    * Didn't include Wilkins (1 games) or Rafa (as just appointed)
    **Didn't include Rogers as not had a full season yet.

    So whatever the arguments about money, luck and class, Chelsea have won more major trophies (pushing it for the LC, I know) than Utd since Abramovich took over but there isn't much in it.
    Also, They are both well ahead of the Arse and Liverpool
     
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  20. chelsea - over 100 years of history

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    It does somewhat pi55 on the stability argument; though the cash injections have been the only way we've been able to sustain it.
     
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