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Daily Thread Wednesday 21st November

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by woolcombe-folly007, Nov 20, 2012.

  1. woolcombe-folly007

    woolcombe-folly007 Well-Known Member

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    Could be a very good day for Walsh/Mullins tomorrow at fairyhouse, one horse in paticluar intrests me.

    14.45 Fairyhouse- Twigline- 7/4
     
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  2. Chaninbar

    Chaninbar The Crafty Cockney

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    Hexham 2.40 Hobbs Dream 7/2. This one is being sent with an apparent no hoper on a 650 mile round trip for £3k prize in a 4 mile slog through the mud. Surely has to win just to recoup the diesel money. Don't think it's up against much either.
     
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  3. Dexter

    Dexter Well-Known Member

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    How sh*t is the english "premier" league...?..."best in the world"...right so Ted..

    Bad night for betting shop punters but a great night for form followers...
     
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  4. TopClass

    TopClass Well-Known Member

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    Not sure if anyone knew already but just in case you were mad enough to back DUNGUIB for any novice chases this year, he has yet again been ruled out for the season.
     
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  5. Cyclonic

    Cyclonic Well Hung Member

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    What a shame. It seems that the problem this time is another leg. That Champion Bumper win in 09 was a cracker, and is a race I'll probably remember forever.
     
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  6. ROTO

    ROTO Well-Known Member

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    7.00 Kempton

    Livia's Dream 14/1


    I think Ed Walker's 3 year old filly looks an absolutely ridiculous price at 14/1 and bouncing back from a couple of 'lesser' efforts then I think she will go very well off a mark of 79. In my eyes, she has a progressive profile winning 2 of her 5 handicap starts to date. The latest of these came back in September over today's C+D off a 7lb in what I thought was a very nice performance. Settled just off the pace and travelling wide throughout, George Baker held her together as long as he could and I think she won with a bit more in the tank than her 3/4L victory suggests. The form of that Class 4 race looks very strong with the 3rd Porcini winning her next 3 starts including off a 9lb higher mark. The 6th Just When bolted in by 13L on his only subsequent start in testing handicap at Bath whilst the 2nd Openly had won a Maiden which has prompted the handicapper to raise her 5lb. 2 starts back Livia's Dream ran better than I expected over 1m4f at Windsor in testing conditions when upped 4lb to a mark of 76 as she ran well for a long way before getting weary late on and finishing a 5.75L beaten 6th. The 2nd Aldwich Bay has come out to win again off a 2lb higher mark to solidify the form and I was rather pleased with the effort in the circumstances.

    Her last start came at the start of this month when Livia's Dream was stepped into a Fillies Listed contest over 1m5f at Lingfield where she had a very tough task at the weights (at least 10lb inferior than every rival in the field on official terms) and although understandably outclassed I think she performed at least as well as could be expected despite being well beaten (was hampered early on and shuffled back to the rear also). Given that Ed Walker, a trainer who I think is one of the shrewdest operators around, stepped this 3 year old filly into a Listed off a mark of 76 says a lot about what he thinks of her as I feel he wouldn't have risked jeopardising her mark needlessly so he must have thought she would run a big race. The handicapper has upped her 3lb for her effort in the Listed contest to a career mark of 79 but I certainly don't think she's stopped improving yet and the form of her last win has worked out very nicely. With George Baker committed to Gary Moore's Moderator, the excellent Graham Lee takes over in the saddle and looks a very eye catching booking as its his first ride for the yard. She has a lovely draw in stall 2 which should allow Graham Lee to bag the rail just off the pace which should prove an ideal sit. Ed Walker, who has had an absolutely tremendous season so far, has seen his form dry up a bit and is 0-7 in November but that isn't hugely concerning as the flat season is dying down now a bit. I've put up Livia's Dream for her two wins at double prices where she has been well supported on both occasions so if the money comes its a good sign but over a C+D she's proven over and off a mark that I think she has the ability to win off I'm expecting a big run from Livia's Dream and I'm confident she can fill at least one of the three places.
     
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  7. ROTO

    ROTO Well-Known Member

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    I think Hans Adielsson's handicap debutant 1.30 Lingfield Compton Bell 22/1 looks very intriguing (not necessarily worth a bet). Comes here on the back of a 422 day absence wearing a first time tongue tie for his 3 year old debut and a mark of 55 looks potentially very lenient. I've looked back at his 3 races as a 2 year old and he didn't look completely devoid of ability and handicapping was always going to be his level. A 34,000 GNS purchase back in October 2010, Compton Bell is certainly bred to do better being a half brother to the Listed winning fillies Brisk Breeze and the German trained Belle Syrienne. In addition, his half brother Beau Chapeau also won over in Germany so he should have a little more to offer than he currently has. Moreover, his siblings all seemed to come into their own when 3 years old so I think Compton Bell will certainly be a better animal now past his Juvenile years. Richard Kingscote, who is having his first start for Hans Adielsson, comes here for only one ride before heading off to Kempton in the evening so it looks potentially a significant booking (he's riding another of Adielsson's on Thursday so he may have been schooling a few of them). He's a horse I'll keeping an eye on in the market and I'll probably track his future progress.
     
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  8. heisenburg

    heisenburg Well-Known Member

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    morning Roto, keep them write ups coming, very interesting reads on a wet and windy morning

    Woolys in on to something re willie and ruby, will text willie and see what he has to say !!!!!!!

    stay frosty
     
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  9. SwanHills

    SwanHills Well-Known Member

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    Cue Card's runaway win in 2010 was the Champion Bumper I'll remember for ever. Nearest I ever got to going potty watching a race! :smile:
     
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  10. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    You might want to ask him about Champagne Agent in the 1.45 maybe?
     
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  11. heisenburg

    heisenburg Well-Known Member

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    HE'S a bit slow this morning Archy. when he texts you all will know

    stay frosty
     
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  12. redcgull

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    Good morning gents... No surprise Warwick has gone or that even Chavski are looking for a new manager this morning. The only surprise is that PadPow have paid out on the unfortunate Brendan Powell for his 'mistake' yesterday... Ive only watched the incident this morning and ive got to say he isnt the 1st and certainly will not be the last to have made this blunder... Poor lad, he must have felt so bad after he realised what he had done...

    Do we think that Fakenham should change the finish or is it just one of things he should have bloody well known...? Its not like its the first time that it has happened, is it... Sam Thomas and Denis O' Regan have done this also...

    Anyway lets see if we can find owt of worth today...<cheers>
     
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  13. Bostonbob

    Bostonbob Well-Known Member

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    They should put a marker there Red. I know it's his mistake but the lad's lost out on earnings for 2 weeks because of this around Christmas time. That's an incredibly harsh punishment for something the course contributed to through their own dire decision making.
     
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  14. Bostonbob

    Bostonbob Well-Known Member

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    Heis, check your texts mate. I think Willie has been in touch...
     
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  15. Bostonbob

    Bostonbob Well-Known Member

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    Turban is a massive price a 5/4. Thank you Skybet
     
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  16. BrigadierGerard

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    They should definitely do something at Fakenham, however a good indication is that it is unlikely you are going to cross the line whilst jumping a fence, although would have saved me a few pounds, as all the last fence fallers might have been able to cling on as the slid across the line
     
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  17. Brough Tiger

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    I'd probably rather be on Shrapnel myself at the prices but its a no bet race for me!
     
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  18. heisenburg

    heisenburg Well-Known Member

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    Days off Boys and i slept in, How BB knows he had texted me mystifys me, i shall investigate, but he has,,,,,,

    "Dano how the feck are ya, ya big Galoot,? Blood Cotil has his first run for us in the 2 mile 3yo maiden hurdle. He has French hurdling experience which will stand to him over these Easyfix (Easyfix,,, save that for Chelts Big Fella and dont tell our Patrick)hurdles. He seems in good form at home and will like the soft ground today. Turban (No Curry Jokes from Oddy, but he is Red Hot) runs in the 2 mile conditions hurdle. He too will be suited by these bigger Easyfix hurdles as he has been schooled over fences at home. The race conditions suit and the ground will be perfect for him. Champagne Agent (if he wins today i'll call him Champagane Archy) goes for the 2 mile maiden hurdle. He has been frustrating but is fit and well and ready for action. Hopefully, this ground won&#8217;t be too heavy for him. Twigline makes her hurdling debut in the 2m 4f maiden hurdle. She has been with us for two years but hasn&#8217;t run due to a few niggly problems. She jumps well and is has been working well at home. Hopefully, she will keep up our current good winning run. So there ya have it get on with a Lucky 15, make it each way just in case, but **** around with the tote place, stay frosty big fella"
     
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  19. SwanHills

    SwanHills Well-Known Member

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    'Willy' sure sounds a lot like OddDog himself?
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  20. heisenburg

    heisenburg Well-Known Member

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    FAIRYHOUSE 14:45 MAIDEN HURDLE 2m 4f
    21-11-2012 14:45
    Win or E/W
    Twigline @ 4/6 (GP)

    FAIRYHOUSE 13:45 MAIDEN HURDLE 2m
    21-11-2012 13:45
    Win or E/W
    Champagne Agent @ 7/4 (GP)

    FAIRYHOUSE 13:15 HURDLE (5YO+) 2m
    21-11-2012 13:15
    Win or E/W
    Turban @ 6/5 (GP)

    FAIRYHOUSE 12:45 JUVENILE MAIDEN HURDLE 2m
    21-11-2012 12:45
    Win or E/W
    Blood Cotil @ 1/2 (GP)

    A pound Lucky and 3 pound accy pays 140 pound

    Im on
     
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