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Sunderland's mclean refuses to wear Poppy.

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  1. Norway-jack

    Norway-jack Well-Known Member

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    We dont need to close every thread do we?

    There has been some good debate here in fairness.
     
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  2. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    why close a thread??????the sunderland player didnt wear a poppy because he doesnt agree with british military and its actions>>>>>and i wouldnt wear it on the basis of then 9/11 attacks anymore
     
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  3. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Has it all blown over now! World War III that is.....................................:bandit:
     
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  4. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    this contains BAD language so please only 18 years and over watching this please PARENTAL WARNING!!! .....................................tbh i couldnt say it any better than these lot <laugh> [video=youtube;PSEYXWmEse8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEYXWmEse8&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
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  6. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    its a mad old world init [video=youtube;gb_qHP7VaZE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=gb_qHP7VaZE[/video]
     
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  7. neveroffsidereff

    neveroffsidereff Well-Known Member

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    That's a good one rubber, one of the best bit of the film. I like the clip on what have the Romans ever done for us, bar the roads aqueducts!!! Brilliant.
     
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  8. Master Yoda

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    I love both those videos <laugh>
     
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  9. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    great python writing dude,top stuff <ok>

    the gendrosjack platoon [video=youtube;25Qhbdijv5Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25Qhbdijv5Y&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
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  10. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;IoaxvehimA0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IoaxvehimA0[/video]
     
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  11. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    its a mad world boys [video=youtube;v3S24ofEQj4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=v3S24ofEQj4[/video]

    [video=youtube;SkYl_AH-qyk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=SkYl_AH-qyk[/video]
     
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  12. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    "the gendrosjack platoon".........................................................<laugh><laugh>......Top draw there aber mate!...................<cheers>
     
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  13. Stumpy

    Stumpy Well-Known Member

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    Replying from UAE, managed to get an outside connection, took me 2 days.

    This thread is as hot as it is outside, thought I'd add my 10p worth now I can communicate.

    McLean has every right to decide not to wear any an emblem designed to commemorate those who have tortured, maimed and murdered his kin. Its like asking a decedent of Owain Glynd&#373;r to wear the family emblem of Henry IV or, Spotted Elks decedents being called cowards and threatened for not wearing Wounded Knee Victory celebration badges.

    McClean showed strength of character as well as love and respect for HIS family. Standing up for himself appears to have upset those less able to compute. Some of the more ignorant, petulant, pedantic, goose stepping, poppy Nazis managed to prove their idiocy by dragging their knuckles across the key board and come up with insults and death threats.

    How despicable they are to condone the hunting and shooting of someone because of a differing point of view. This happen in Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, Socialist China, the Peoples movement of Cambodia the list goes on, no lessons learned there then.

    I wear a poppy but my personal view is that the poppy I wear offers my respect to those lost in WW2, not after. In my view the whole commemoration should have absolutely nothing to do with the current 21st century career soldier we endure today.

    Every soldier since WW2 and subsequent subscription, has made a conscious effort, a decision to become a soldier. Today soldiers join up because
    1 good career
    2 monies good,
    3 I'm bored at home
    4 I got no prospects at home
    5 fun to shoot some hadji, hadj-poj, doon kunes, skinnies, Ragheads

    Taken from Time magazine.

    Today an actual choice is made, join up, pick up a weapon, get paid, follow orders, kill. For me these soldiers are the antithesis of honor and should not be mentioned in the same breath as those from WW2.

    In my mind a distinction needs be drawn between real war heroes who fought for freedom in wars of consequence and career mercenary who fight for profit in wars engineered for economic gain of a powerful minority.

    The poppy should not be for todays heroes and it is an insult of the highest order to lump these in with true heroes of WW2. The mercenary soldier should have their own separate commemoration away from real heroes where they can compare daring feats and dick sizes amongst themselves.

    All they have done is stood on the shoulders of giants and stole their respect.

    We should also wear a poppy to remember and morn with the heaviest of hearts and on bended knee, the forgotten souls of the tens of million of Men, Women, Children, innocent civilians, slaughtered in the name of God and Glory since 1945. We should beg whatever God turns our page for peace for these souls and for their forgiveness, we pampered bullies of the west allowed them to die.

    Since 1945 the death of the innocent outweigh those of the armed by 250:1. That is, since WW2, each paid soldiers death has been preceded by the death of 250 innocent people, could be you and me next especially if dai wants to shoot people with different ideas to his bigoted view.

    So, wear a poppy or don't wear one your choice and it is not anyone elses. I'm off to bed its 12:40 and 76 in the shower, coolest room in flat.

    rubber_ball, respect for your views <ok>
     
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  14. DragonPhilljack

    DragonPhilljack Well-Known Member

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    Hell Stumpy well said mate, that's a post that really hits all the plastic on this thread on the head, can't fault one word you've said, it's good to have such like minded poster's with a real perspective on life and issues, one of the best posts in my view of this thread! Well done mate great post, joy to read............<ok>
     
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  15. aberdude

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    stumpy my hat is off 2ya dude>>>>>>seems draconian britain is still alive in parts but with the likes of u and others about im sure one day we shall have peace and real freedom and an equal society with no class system maybe not in our lifetime but hopefully for our kids and theyre kids.


    when will people stop needing gods 2 gave them support and guidance in life>>>>>when will people start thinking for themselves and when will this worlds human race celebrate the fact that we MAY be the only living things in the ****ing universe


    keep the mind open,and the eye`s will follow
     
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  16. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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    Theres that smell again
     
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  17. swan_and_only

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    And that's why dyer should start before Hernandez!
     
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  18. Matthew Bound Still Lurks

    Matthew Bound Still Lurks Well-Known Member

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  19. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    no your quote just made me feel better about myself <ale>

    you really are black and white dude>>>>maybe u need a little more colour in your life>>>>>:biggrin:


    ps my nephew hasnt long come back from the falklands dude>>>>he said there was fk all there tbh and didnt have a fking clue what the fk he was out there for if tyhe truth be known>>>>>>he`s now pissing it up in the sun in cyprus for three years.......on my fking taxes :emoticon-0109-kiss:


    another ps smack and cannabis are poles apart even on government propaganda laws>>>>>>u must be jesus himself 2be so perfect <cheers>

    bony did u run from the taliban>>>>>would u cry like a little girl if they took u alive>>>>i bet u would anyway cheers for keeping my supply of drugs going dude....production of heroin and cannabis is on the largest scale ever in the tribes regions>>>>.makes me wonder what you boys are doing apart from walking around stoned stepping on fking landmines.
     
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  20. mustyfrog

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    stumpy, that is the silliest comment i have read for a long time,
     
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