A good goal it certainly was. One of the best, certainly. The best ever? No chance. Frank Worthigton's was miles better but my particular favourite has got to be Gazza's against Scotland. No fluke, not a speculative overhead kick. Pure skill.
Shreks overhead wasn't at all great. It bounced off his shin, a proper overhead was the one Peter Crouch scored against Galatasary. He got all of his 6ft 7 up to hit it.
Speculative? I don't think it was speculative anymore than Van Bastens volley, the Roberto Carlos free kick or let's say...Worthingtons for instance. Did Ibrahimovic know exactly what he was trying to do? No doubt about it in my mind that he knew exactly what he was doing. The way he sets himself and the body shape after he hits it is perfection. Football meets Bruce Lee...in fact the only way I'd have enjoyed it more would have been if he'd made Kung Fu noises as he hit it Loved the Gazza goal obviously but any half decent player should be able to score goals like that. Some goals are once in a lifetime. Last nights was one of those.
Ibrahimovic clearly means to shoot at goal but I have to laugh at TalkSport's Durham for saying he thought about where the keeper and defenders were and he knew he had to lob it for it to go in! FFS, he knew the keeper was a few yards away so he hit it towards goal and it went in...well play son, very good finish. Nothing more, nothing less!
But surely when you hit any shot it is "hitting it towards goal". Its impossible to say he placed it obviously but any shot from range has an element of hit and hope. That's inevitable. The fact is though that he did know exactly where the keeper was and exactly where the goal was...he stuck it in perfectly. Hardly just a "very good finish" mate, not to me at least. Slotting it in the corner is a good finish, rounding the keeper or chipping him is a very good finish but that was something else last night
Not disagreeing with that, just think Durham took it a bit too far with the thought pattern Call it a very good finish, superb finish, world class finish, whatever. That bits not relevant in my point
The result was a combination of excellent technique and luck, but there was also intelligence in the decision to attempt the shot and start adjusting his position for it before Joe Hart had even headed the ball, anticipating that Hart would win the race to the ball but might not head it clear.
Well Durhams thought patterns are just designed to be over the top and controversial all the time so that's a simple answer to why he spouts **** a lot. Nothing new there. And don't put things in your posts that aren't relevant to your point. You know I get easily confused It was undoubtedly a world class finish whether it's the greatest is purely a personal thing I suppose. Try getting two football fans to agree on thhe greatest ten goals of all time. What I don't buy though is the "if Joe Hart hadn't come out he wouldn't have scored". Well duh...some people have been banging on about it today. Surely that's like saying "if Peter Reid wasn't a fat little **** Maradona wouldn't have scored in 86". Obviously...but where's the excitement in watching footy in the first place if you think like that?
What Maradona did in '86 on ''Tina'' Shilton wasn't right. If he had to do what George Best for Northern Ireland and kick the ball out of the keepers hand, it may have been called cheeky, but never cheating.
Yeah, the 'what if' scenarios don't really apply. The scorer as a set situation in which he must try to score from, it is irrelevant whats gone off beforehand. I don't think it is the greatest goal ever because it includes an element of luck. Personally, I'd pick goals where the player knows what he is doing such as Maradona's in 86 against England (that didn't involved a hand) over a overhead/bicycle kick. Although, I absolutely love Trevor Sinclair's for QPR around 1996 time - edge of box, directly in line with the goal, in off the bar, magic!
