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A Hulse of a question?

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by deleted....., Nov 15, 2012.

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The Hulse/Kermit conundrum?

  1. Make offer for Hulse -- YES

  2. Make offer for Hulse -- NO

  3. Kermit back in 1st team

  4. Kermit waits on bench

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  1. deleted.....

    deleted..... Well-Known Member

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    Kermit is back in training... even if non-contact at present and is expected to be in first team contention by the start of December. As Hulse has been frozen out at QPR and would probably be very keen to join us should we make him an offer if he is on a free or nominal?

    When kermit is fit should he come straight back into first team or wait his turn on the bench? surely he can't play WITH Hulse?

    Thoughts?

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    You can tick more than one box in poll :)
     
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    deleted..... Well-Known Member

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    For clarification.... this is TWO polls in one poll as I didn't want to run the two polls as separate threads,,,, so you can vote for more than one option <ok>
     
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  3. Bitter & Malicious

    Bitter & Malicious Well-Known Member

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    Kermit wasn't outstanding even before his injury, and there is always the fear that he might never be as good again (after all, his career was mediocre for years before he joined Charlton). With Solly, he is my favourite player, and if back to his best he would be a tremendous asset, but with strikers you need plenty of back-ups. Most clubs have five strikers competing for two spots, sometimes for one spot if the team switches to 4-5-1. I see no problem with Kermit playing with Fuller. If both fit I think that would be a deadly combination. Not the quickest pairing but their skill and intelligence would more than make up for that. And Hulse would be an adequate replacement for either as I cannot see Fuller playing more than 70% of games, or Kermit more than 80%, even if they both avoid major injuries.
     
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  4. CarrianCarcuss

    CarrianCarcuss Active Member

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    I would be happy to see Hulse given a contract to the end of the season or possbily the season after, but I would much rather see Kermit back in the first team when he has returned and match fit. I think Hulse has done well but unless he keeps scoring I predict he will be replaced, could see him being replaced by Fuller before then as well.
     
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  5. ybabobmij

    ybabobmij Active Member

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    I'm in a quandry on this for a number of reasons. Eddie has alighted on some of them e.g. will Kermit be as good as before or indeed, is he up to this level anyway? He was brilliant last year although, arguably, we played better football as a team when he wasn't in it. But he was not convincing this year before his injury. I'm putting that down to the midfield being out of its depth and the formation being all wrong as much as I am to Kermit being up against a better class of centre half this year. Either way, I'm looking forward to having him back. Equally, my jury is out on Hulse. As I said on another thread, he was woeful foir the first two games but better against Cardiff. I wasn't at Bristol so can't offer an opinion. My instinct, and its purely an instinct, is that he's not all that great. I'll form a view after the next couple of games. But early yet to commit to a bid. Just cos he's available and cheap isn't a good enough reason to dive in, even in our apparent circumstances. The quandry is complicated by the fact that Haynes seems to have come from nowhere as a real asset, but he is made of glass. BWP is trying his gonads off this season but is looking suspiciously as though he might not be completely up to the standard (not proven yet, I'm just saying). Fuller is apparently, though I have not myself yet seen much evidence of it, premiership class. But he too is injury prone. We have a potential feast of striking otiions, but all have their issues. Would I make Hulse a permanent part of that quandry yet? Probably not, but I'm in two minds. Earn your corn CP!
     
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  6. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    On current form our two strikers would be Haynes and Fuller, no Kermit or Hulse. I'd love to be proved wrong but I think BWP has found Champioship defenders too good for him, and IF Haynes stays fit he will only be a bit-part player. Hulse has improved, and I give Haynes some credit for that, let's see if he keeps up the improvement before offering him another deal. Kermit will have to start off from the bench, take it from there, we will probably have one or two injuries allowing him to show what he can do.
     
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  7. WWOCB

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    Hulse was absolutely dire against both Wolves and Middlesborough, and had an 'okay' game against Cardiff.

    Kermorgant has changed his style of play this season to suit the Championship, which seems to have gone fairly unnoticed. He was arguably our best player last season and the closest thing to a cult hero we've had for at least 7 years.


    Out of the two, Kermorgant is the more effective, he is more consistent and he is younger.
     
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  8. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    We will need Hulse. Fuller is prone to missing a few games and there still could be question marks over Kermo. It is an injury that can reoccur if rushed back.

    A 5 man attack of Hulse, Fuller, Kermo, BWP and Haynes will go a long way to keeping us in this division.
     
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    Is anybody 'nailed on' for one of the front men? Is it who plays with Danny H? or who plays with Kermit (like last season) or who plays with Ricardo?

    From the last two games it seems to be Danny H plus AN Other
     
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  10. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    We've just got to keep him fit, which is exactly what The Doctor is trying to do. The AN Other has to be Ricardo, but what are the chances of those two staying fit? Kermit could play with either of those two.
     
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  11. Butterfield

    Butterfield Well-Known Member

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    I think having Hulse, Haynes, Kermorgant, Fuller and BWP gives us good depth as they are injury prone plus healthy competition for places on the Doctors teamsheet.
     
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  12. WWOCB

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    I think we'd be a lot better off with a partnership of Kermorgant & Haynes. The two linked up very well last season - unlike BWP, Haynes was able to read all of Yann's flick-on's, which made both Haynes dribbling/pace and Kermorgant's delivery all the more dangerous.

    I'll get shot down for this, but Fuller has shown me very little this season to show that he should be given a starting place. His two goals (not including the OG by Camp) were both very well-taken, but all too often he loses possession/passes when he should shoot/shoots when he should pass, whilst all the time moaning at (sorry...'advising') the rest of the team.
     
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  13. ybabobmij

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    I'll get shot down for this, but Fuller has shown me very little this season to show that he should be given a starting place. His two goals (not including the OG by Camp) were both very well-taken, but all too often he loses possession/passes when he should shoot/shoots when he should pass, whilst all the time moaning at (sorry...'advising') the rest of the team.[/QUOTE]

    No you won't mate. I agree completely.
     
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  14. Ponders Revisited

    Ponders Revisited Well-Known Member

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    I said before the season started that BWP would struggle to score ten goals (didn't I superC?), and I can't see that prediction failing. He is not up to Championship level and, to be honest, sometimes looked a bit useless in League One. I say let him go in January and use his wages to bring someone else in. Actually, I would rather see Waggy playing off Kermit or Fuller, than BWP.

    Kermit and Haynes would be my ideal partnership, with Fuller as an impact sub. Hulse is okay, but not great. He will do for now, but I'd rather we went in for a hungry youngster from a top Premier League club.

    Have we not got any promising youngsters waiting in the wings?
     
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  15. Bitter & Malicious

    Bitter & Malicious Well-Known Member

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    Indeed we have. Azeez is now an England international and some say Piggott is as good, or at least, as effective. But they are only 18 and both at least a year away from challenging for a first team place. Then we have Sho-Silva who is a year younger but may prove better than either.
     
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  16. GrahamMoorerules

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    Blimey Ponders are you mellowing?.....or are you seeing sense?......
     
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  17. Miketyson2007

    Miketyson2007 Well-Known Member

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    BWP has had virtually zero opportunity to score works his socks off and gets dissed.
    I have been impressed with Haynes of late so he's the man in possession as for hulse or kermogant joking right Hulse is very very average for us kermogant different level so it's Haynes and kermogant with BWP waiting in the wings give him the chances Haynes has had he'd score them fuller good impact sub for me Hulse back up for kermogant
     
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  18. dick plumb

    dick plumb Well-Known Member

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    Fuller and Haynes for me.I don't like the way that the team play when Kermy is in the team too much hoofball.This is not a criticism of Kermy but the team seem obsessed with lumping it up to him.Fuller is the only Premiership striker we have and Haynes pace would work well with him.
     
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  19. SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious

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    Indeed you did ponders. I still think he was one of the more impressive performers in the early part of the season, but he literally had 0 service. If we are able to add some creativity to the midfield he will be worth keeping.
     
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  20. Ponders Revisited

    Ponders Revisited Well-Known Member

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    I am 34 now, GMR. I can't retain the same level of venom in my dotage.
     
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