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Elton John and baby Zachary...

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Hugh Briss, Apr 30, 2011.

  1. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    It isn't bigoted. The man made a life choice which has it consequences, one is the fact that he chooses to not reproduce in a natural manner. The natural reproductive process exists for a reason and is fundamental in the ideal upbringing of a child, foor natural learning, progression and development the presence of both mother and father is essential.

    Im not some religious zealot,in fact i would describe myself bordering extremely agnostic to militant atheist, however I cannot agree with this. the child really has no say in it and he is counting on his parents first and foremost for a balanced educational upbringing. I am not gay-bashing here, homosexuality exists and any person brought up in a normal and balanced educational environment will recognise this and will be able to make their own balanced view on the subject (i recognise that the other extreme exists and there is an unbalanced antigay element as well e.g. Westboro baptist church) but the adopted child in question will not be able to recognise what is normal and what is not and will be growing up with the attitude that homsexuality is the norm, which it unarguably is NOT! The child will suffer psychological and social consequences. Puberty is tough enough for christ's sake.

    So people crying out that it isn't fair on the gay couple wo have made their choices in life, stop for a minute and think of the child who has no say in it all.
     
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  2. Lucaaas

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    I was just making an observation after reading this thread. You claim Dev is a racist for saying that Black couples should not be allowed to adopt white babies, but I bet you'd refuse accusations of homophobia, even though your argument is just as illogical.

    Just a thought for you, do you think children would be happier in a care home with no parents at all and no sense of belonging whatsoever, or in a caring family with two gay, male parents?

    And If Children really would bully another child over his parents sexual orientation, then I think that says more about the upbringing the bully had, rather than the upbringing the adopted child had.
     
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  3. Hugh Briss

    Hugh Briss Well-Known Member

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    <applause>...
     
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  4. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    Jacky, not going into it all again, just going to summarise what was said earlier:

    You can't choose your parents in life, they are randomly assigned to you.

    Having parents, whatever their sexuality, is better than no parents.

    When growing up, kids make up their own opinions on life, people raise their kids to believe in god and they renounce it, why would gay's kids automatically become gay?

    There's more but can't be arsed <ok>
     
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  5. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    The bullying issue is very basic:

    KIDS GET BULLIED! Get over it...

    Kids can get bullied for any reason:

    If you have an ugly mum like Joker, wouldn't that make you a target for insults too? So should ugly women not be allowed to parent children?

    Etc...
     
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  6. THe Mighty Huth Rocks

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    So we give HOW MUCH to children in need every year, What the **** do they do with it?

    Give it all to the Black bastards in Africa, Whilst all the ****ing rich GAY couples, get there claws, into Bosnian, Serbian, Polish, Romanian & any other ****ing regime now not affiliated with Russia.

    MONEY ****ING TALKS
     
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  7. Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction

    Vilsmeier-Haack Reaction Well-Known Member

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    You can't choose your parents in life, they are randomly assigned to you. - Yes, but this is artificially assigning a child to a couple that cannot naturally reproduce, at least the random assignment of parents usually has one main theme, the presence of a mother and father.

    Having parents, whatever their sexuality, is better than no parents. - Do you realise how many streile couples that cant afford fertility therapy that are jumping through hoops in a futile attempt to gain adoption of a child, im sure there are many of these whichwould be more suitable homes.

    When growing up, kids make up their own opinions on life, people raise their kids to believe in god and they renounce it, why would gay's kids automatically become gay? Granted but your talking about specific cases, im talking averages and environmental conditioning can quite often be of a greater influence on the individual than genetics and I can guarantee you this type of conditioning will show up in higher incidences of people choosing homosexuality than in a more neutral environment.
     
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  8. Shameless

    Shameless Well hung member

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    Hey Mick, what do you think?
    - homophobic and racist?
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  9. Shameless

    Shameless Well hung member

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    ER, you lost the argument several times over and again - bend over for a gang **** cos you got

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  10. THe Mighty Huth Rocks

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    So another prick comes, who tries to ban people, because they do not agree with your principles.

    Go join ****ing womens institute(WI), you ****ing lesbian
     
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  11. Shameless

    Shameless Well hung member

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    "Give it all to the Black bastards in Africa ..."

    That language is completely ****ING UNACCEPTABLE you ****ing low-life.
     
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  12. THe Mighty Huth Rocks

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    It's a shame less people respond to you on here, because the shame, the shame

    PS is you black,cause innit ,black is black, i want my baby back
     
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    Holy fecking crap. Since when was this acceptable? Absolutely disgraceful racism.

    Also, is it better to bring kids up in a home where they may get abused one way or another just because it is deemed a 'normal' homelife, with a mother and a father? I think not, a child should be with 1 or 2 loving parents no matter the gender. If you think that Elton's boy won't have any female influence in his life then you must be mad. They have a huge social group, and no doubt many, many heterosexual friends.
     
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  15. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Just to clarify, that was NOT the point I was making <laugh>
     
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  16. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Utter bollocks mate. Sorry, you are rambling now, check the studies that have been carried out in the USA as regards kids being brought up by Gay/Lesbian couples. There is no difference in their behaviours whatsoever, it's a misconception that Children need a Mother and Father in their lives. ANY two parents (perhaps even one) whatever their sexual preferences can bring up a child, being gay does not mean they cannot be good parents.
     
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  17. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Sorry, I meant Racist moron. This is one of the few who agree with Joker. <doh>
     
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  18. Toby

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    Joker still defends his position when he has people like Huth teaming up with him...<doh>
     
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  19. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    The Racist and the cartoon manchild can form a brains trust.
     
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  20. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    No apparently Dev you're the racist...And I'm gay...

    Well done team Joker/Huth <ok>
     
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