http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk...luis-suarez-from-liverpool-fc-99623-32234117/ Here is the story there are rumours we want to sign Thomas Ince back.
An agent smokescreen, hes coming here in January. http://www1.skysports.com/football/...-denies-a-Premier-League-move-has-been-agreed
You didn't answer number three did you I know £1b is unrealistic but thats the point of my questions. At some point there is a figure that the club will accept.
Can't see Suarez going anywhere going just signed a new long term contract and if he does go, can see it being to someone abroad for a very large amount of money. £40mil is no where near enough. Torres was downhill and went for £50mil, and Suarez is hitting his prime and in the form of his life this season. I'd sell to City for £50mil plus Dzeko, otherwise tell em where to go.
Neither do I or anyone else outside of the club. That was my point {phones not doing quotes properly again }
I agree he won't go anywhere but I think that is for the same reason Downing won't be leaving, no one will be willing to pay the amount it will take to get him {quote worked that time}
Few things I've learned from two different people I rust. Absolutely no reason for anyone to care or believe this but there's little point me hearings tings and keeping it all to myself so take it and do what you want with it: - Reina has been told he can leave if there's an acceptable bid for him. He's not to happy about this and doesn't want to go. - FSG have contacted Amanda Staveley in regards to possible interest in the middle east in buying the club OR investing in it for a stake. A friend knows someone who for his work has contact details for Miss Staveley and when my mate told him about this, he contacted her and her answer was "Yes, there's something in it but not that much" and was very defensive. Waiting for more on this. - The person who told me about Staveley above also told me that FSG have no money for Rodger's in January and its sell to buy now under FSG. However, another person well connected disagreed with this person and said there is a MAX £15m plus whats raised thru sales available. Haven't heard anything about this Suarez thing but will ask about it. Gut instinct is that, just like with Agger and Skrtel, this is City trying to unsettle a player they want through the media which seems to be a new tactic of theirs just like Barca and Real do.
Problem is - will we re-invest that money wisely? The spending in Kenny's reign has made me sceptical. Anything above £50m and I think we should at least consider it because it could fund at least 2 top class players (just as we did with Luis - £24m). But it would be extremely difficult to find a player who replaces Luis - technical ability, intelligence, vision, awareness and most of all, his passion and desire to win (these two aspects are the most difficult to find in a player, let alone all of those qualities above). He is our talisman. Rodgers will build the team around him but he needs quality around him. I actually would consider making Luis captain ...
Rodgers has said on numerous occasiosn that Reina is the perfect/ideal keeper to player in this style. If anything, I would expect Reina to be the one who wants to leave. And to be honest, I won't be surprised if we do lose 1 big player in January or next summer. It will be extremely difficult to hang on to our best players now.
That is bollox If you had said it was Reina that wanted to go I would have been inclined to agree but this way around? Bollox I guess time will tell
If we start selling players like Suarez.....Then we can kiss good by to Suso to barcalona the following summer and Raheem to the higheest bidder aswell. We have to make a statment of not sellinh or we really are showing acceptance of being a 2nd tier side... Knew there was a reson I kept off of this thread...lol, its just far to depressing
Lol: so what if this is true? So the richest club vying for the title want one of the best forwards on the best form in the league and have enough money to at least tempt a club? Nothing wrong with that; we'd do the same if roles were reversed. This in no way means we or Suarez would be interested. If Suarez went in January it would be the end of our football club as we know it. 1) Rodgers would leave; he's already been screwed by FSG once in the transfer market. In a window where he needs strikers; to sell the only player scoring goals no matter what the money would risk leaving us with no strikers. Because even if we got 50-60 million for him we'd end up in a Carroll situation for any replacements we tried to go for because every club would know we have the cash. We'd go into the second half of the season with no or one over priced mediocre forward and we would most certainly be in trouble. Any of our remaining good players would leave in the summer because they truly would be on a sinking ship. At that point John could send his wife naked across the pond and we'd still burn her & him at the stake. From Suarez point of view; I think the last year has shown him how the rest of the English football world would have treated him. He signed an even longer term deal with us because at the worst time of his career we stayed loyal to him & attempted to protect him. Even if he has no loyalty he has been shown a glimpse of what way he would be treated by the way Mancini ponces around like a jilted girlfriend with his livelier players. I'll stick my neck out and say not in a month of Sundays.
would you not take 50mil for suarez? I would. I'd take it in a flash as it'd get shut of the nastyness... and yes our chances of avoiding relegation enarly too <laugH> The reason downing won't go is not that peoepl won't pay the asking price, i think we'll flog him for any pennies we can get. nobody will pay the dmaned wages! as per cole. no matter what we might think the wages are still very high compared to the clubs who would be interested. reina stuff.... simply put with a 20mil keep you don't say go find a club. no you go quietly let it be known to certiain top clubs that you'd seel and let them bid. he doesn't want to go? I also find that highly suspect so that one i think is an iffy one. ..... again, suso is signed up so if barca want him for 10-15 mil then fine take him. same for stelring, same for suarez... I get called negative on this site for wanting our club to have standards while others who wish to be "positive" live in cloud cuckoo land. If a 50mil bid for suarez was submitted in the morning I'd bite city's hand off to get shut. at least its a profit unlike carroll who will be a huge loss when we do sell him for 10mil. The standards I apply are "this club should be winning the league, this is whats needed" FSG are so far off that standard, all we are is a rumour mill for the press and a mid table club right now. we've got our "best" players on long term deals so we can sell them on if required by their ambition, we've worked to reduce the wage bill year on year to be at mid tbale levels and still have the likes of cole sucking us dry. we are lucky enough to maybe be able to have a 15-20mil budget for players per year but right now it looks highly likely we will not even make the europa next year so we can kiss 7-10mil goodbye. this is reality. harsh and cold. 50mil for suarez? I'd take that anyday just to see the back of 3000 away day fans outsinging the anfield faithful with "you know what you are." Depressing? pah the only depressing thing i hear is when our away fans at cheslea can outsing the plastics for suarez while our home crowd is silent and even wigan will be able to be heard singing that taunt at anfield. 50mil for suarez, 50mil for torres, beats the hell out of nothing for mcmanaman and 8mil for owen anyday.
a bit of an over reaction? Torres went for 50mil. agger, sekrtl, lucas gerrard are all still there and szurez joined. Manager changes were forced by owners no the other way round. Yes we've only one forward but end of our club? nope. like i said reality is or club is nowehre near where the standard i want it to be at and we are ineffect already midtable. it won't make that worse! ps.. everyone knew newcastle got 35mil from us. they did ok on thier buys yeah? huntelaar will still cost the same due to his contract. there you go. 50mil for suarez? yes plase, everyone has their price. thats a very steep one and we could even get a player or two in the deal.
I say we do whatever is best for the club (we all want this). As I said above, I think every player has a price. If we get a bid of £50m then we have to consider selling because this could bring in two top quality players. Of course, two players instead of one means more of an outlay on wages too. My only concern is that we go down a similar road to Aston Villa. They sold off a lot of their main players in an attempt to trim the wage bill etc and concentrated on youngsters, they have gone from finishing between fifth and seventh on a regular basis to now possibly being in a relegation fight. We have finished between sixth and eighth in the last few seasons. If we sell our main players than we must reinvest it in the player staff and it must be used wisely
The last thing we need to do is sell any player in January (unless it's Cole), let alone our best player. The squad is far too thin to be selling players. Even players like Downing can serve a purpose in the lesser games.
i have to say that thats a rodgers myth the only thin area is strikers and he loane dout one and failed to buy one. perhaps left full could be called thin but for years utd palyed with no left full but irwin a converted right full... its rodgers choice to stick downing there remember reina jones johnson kelly wisdom flanagan carra skertl agger coates enrique robinson lucas henderson allen sahin gerrard shelvey suso downing cole suarez carrol yesil borini assaidi sterling i see 2 names in every slot which is more than a lot of clubs can say. we choose to play 4-3-3, we chose to send out carroll on loan, we chose to buy in borini, assaidi and yesil, we choose not to play two of those three in the prem thus far. the only thing that we can legistale for (like all clubs) is injuries to lucas, kelly and borini. reina too... I don't buy the "thin" arguement. we can say that downing and cole are terrible, or that yesil and assaidi are not ready or that borini was not good for that money but we cannot say players are thin on the gorund.... not when we could be playing dinosaur football with carroll and suarez up top and supply them from sterling and downing. 50mil for suarez is all his moeny and more. I'd like not to sell until the summer OR ideally be in a position to survive if we did sell him until the summer to go buy players then. fact is 4th is now 8 points away, nobody is any good but we are simply not in a position to challenge due to the clubs current policies. As such 41 points = survival and that the no 1 target, write off the year lads you'll feel better.
Mito, I believe I added "as we know it" The difference between us & Newcastle is that Ashley has convinced the market that he's tight, keeps any money made & only buys bargains. We on the other hand are only now starting that mission to convince the market of the same. Clubs hear Liverpool: they want cash. Look at our attempts at haggling in the summer when we WERE singing from the poor hymn sheet! Now have us go out in January with clubs knowing how much cash we have and the situation we are in. I've seen no evidence that our scouting set up of last two years or now (yet) could replicate the risky (player injury wise) deals Newcastle did. I've seen no evidence that we in the back office side of things are sharp enough to do that type of deal AND get the 2/3 replacements that will actually replace and/or improve on Suarez contribution to the team all in the short window they would have to come in. What I HAVE seen is our team performing without Suarez and I think another half season without him would be dangerous. We would be cemented in the bottom, this would add more pressure to a young & experienced team & yes, I firmly believe players like Reina would say I'm not going through this again and players like Suso & Sterling would say; nothing's changed, same old Liverpool of the last 20 years I'm off before I end up with a league haul like Gerrard( these players aren't born & bred like he was & even HE was tempted at one point!) So did I mean actual end of club? Of course not. Did I mean that we would be risking turning us into the mid table club we are now permanently? I think the balance of our club & recent history suggest we are that fragile. Which is why I don't think it will happen. FSG can be stupid but they have become very cautious of late. That move would be far too risky...in January anyway.
