Id want the sane if we were playing Citeh and they needed a win to stop the scum winning the title. As long as we were safe though.
After youd gone home happy, youd then realise that would ensure our relegation by keeping Hughes for too long, how would you feel then? Is a short term win really worth us going down?
Ensure?? Really?? If I were you I'd be buying that rollover lottery ticket this weekend. It's bizarre how people can be so absolutist about this. Look at Martinez last season... Wigan were down and out - and so were we (as I moaned many times on these pages) but they didn't go down, and neither did we. I'm all for healthy discussion and I quite like a disagreement, but saying things you can't possibly support does not make a rational argument. You might believe it's true, but that's just opinion, and doesn't count for more than any other opinion no matter how many times and how loud it is expressed. The only situation that will 'ensure' our relegation is the game when we lose/draw/win and no longer have enough points to climb out of the mire. Fact. Nothing that happens this weekend will ensure anything regarding the rest of our season - it's as odd as saying a win will ensure we stay up. You 'might' be right - but that doesn't mean you are, especially if you're wrong.
Flyer, on the contrary, it could just be the thing needed to start a run that could see us safely mid table by April.....then we would all be happy!!!!
Fingers, toes & everything else crossed then. Pray for lady luck to smile on us this weekend and beyond.
Apart from that 5 home wins on the trot, we have won once in 10 months. That suggests to me it was nothing more than an Agyemang type blip (were he scored 8 in 8) before he went back to being total ****e. Hughes will never keep us up, Ill leave the board if he does, will any of you be willing to match that bet by leaving if he takes us down or gets sacked?
Or more likely, a win sees him keep him job, we lose the next 5 and its too late to sack him as a new manager wont have enough time to keep us up. If its a must win, a draw is best for the club which will see us keep in touch with saints and also see Hughes sacked.
Each to their own....but i saw (admittedly on a live stream) on saturday enough in that first hour to suggest we are good enough to stay up....just need the goals to start going in.......I will stay in the "glass half full" for the time being.....too much doom & gloom elsewhere.....
I'm not a Hughes fan, on the contrary I think I've been consistently against and believe a person should lose their job when consistently underperforming which Hughes has without dispute. What is also not in dispute is that Tony would have been well within his rights but chose not to. So, on the evidence of the last game where we were much the better side and apart from a few things that could have been done better, this was a drastic improvement. So if we go on to beat Saints, that will also be an improvement, a good performance at Old Trafford will also signal the same. I'm sure the players we have are better than Reading's, Saint's, Norwich's and maybe even Sunderland's. Maybe, just maybe Hughes can get this thing started. I'm afraid, either way, I neither rate him or like him, but am prepared to support for the sake of the club we love.
Which is fair enough but to me its like approving your daughter having a junkie boyfriend. You know its going to get worse so do you break them up so she can recover or do you approve it and let him lead her down a path she will never recover from. The people who support Hughes are just sticking their head in the sand and doing the latter. Supporting the daughter there is the wrong thing to do, as is supporting Hughes now.
If you don't like Flyer's drug addled daughter analogy try this instead; You have an injured foot, it has gone gangrene. Do you cut the foot off to save the leg or hope that the Doctor who says he knows how to treat it actually can and trust him do cure you?
To me, your view is just like letting your daughter drive her car and expecting her to crash because the ground's wet. You could get her a taxi and it might be safer but she might be OK and would be more accomplished having successfully driven the car through bad conditions.
Er, but it's a question of who is qualified to make the decision. If there were a load of amateur medical bystanders shouting at the family to cut the foot off, would you trust them over someone with a medical degree? Also your argument suggests cutting the foot off will somehow guarantee to save the leg (i.e. prevent relegation) - and how exactly do you know that is the case? Sacking Hughes is not some magic pill - it could just as easily lead to relegation. Does the phrase "need time to gel" ring any bells? Wouldn't that be the ultimate irony - sacking Hughes to go through the whole process again.
Exactly! You'll note in Flyers constant spouting he has ignored of chosen to miss my suggestion that we need to consider all factors. As fans from the outside we are not privy to everything. So flyer and others if the gamble was that to sack MH and if we still get relegated the club would almost certainly go into a Portsmouth like nosedive and administration; would you still do it or see if he can turn it around? I'm not saying that would happen but then I'm not the one saying the unknown is certain. It is one possibility that may be effecting others decision.
On the other hand, not sacking him is certain to see us in that situation. Id take the chance of success over the certainty of failure.
Sorry Flyer but it is not a certainty.....granted it is a possibility...but it does not become certain until there aren't enough points left to play for to achieve safety and by my reckoning there are still 81 points to play for.
That makes as much sense as saying we could bring Hulse onto the squad in January and he could score 20 and lead us to safety. Its a possibility after all.
