Are people still going to defend Pardew after the shower of sh*t we served up today?

Just to be clear I don't want him gone, but we've won 3 out of 11 league games and questions need to be answered by him.

We have no game plan other than to give it to HBA and hope he creates/scores a goal of the season contender, we have no identity this season. Our constant changing of formation is a joke and I would imagine one of the main reasons we have no fluidity.

Cisse's off the ball movement is nothing short of that of a 10 year old lad playing for a Sunday kids team, constantly runs offside so he can't receive a pass. Cabaye and HBA take an extra touch (or five) 99% of the time they get the ball. Our set plays are pathetic and this HAS to be Pardew's fault, we should be practising these day in day out, and in two years under Pardew our ONLY set play tactic is the diagonal to Williamson. When we have a free kick on the half way line why can't it just be played short for f*ck sake?

No CB signed in the summer looks more and more criminal by the the game, whether the board or Pardew are responsible for this is debatable (probably both accountable).

I know we had Colo and Tiote out today, but all teams suffer injuries and there is no excuse for today's performance which was the worst of the season. We were so poor West Ham didn't have to even do anything remotely good to beat us. I posted a thread the other day saying Pardew either needs to stop banging on about challenging the top four or produce a team capable to mount such a challenge, based on the season so far he should most definitely do the former as we by no means looks capable of such a challenge. I mean if top four (not my aim but HIS aim) is his aim then he's massively underachieving this season.

I'm gutted for Jonas but I do feel it could be a blessing in disguise. So Swansea up next, by no means an easy game. I'm sure people will say I'm overreacting but we're boring to watch this season and that's the reality of it in my opinion. Poor football with mediocre results, improvements are a must.

 

Completely agree with you. Don't really have anything else to add as I've said most of the things you have in other topics.

Like you I'm not calling for Pardew's head right now, but things do seriously need to improve. We did very well last season with him but we have to judge by what's happening now, not what has happened before.

 

I'll defend Pardew...

We were shocking today and losing at home to Fat Sham doesn't help - that said, we can't get involved in knee-jerk reactions to one bad result.

Settle down and realise that we are an average PL side who over-achieved last season.

We qualified for Europe and that is taking it's toll via injuries and suspensions - Colo & Tiote missing today was massive.

That's enough to be going on with...

 

If so why does Pardew mention the top four in every other press conference? It's bad management of the fans expectations by him. It's also not about one bad result, it's about a mixed bag of performances (not results) ranging from "very bad" to "average at best" over the past eleven league games.

 

Pardew a victim of his own success?

 

And what was it, an 8 year contract?

He's going nowhere and if he does that's an awful big pay out by Mr Ashley

 

Possibly, but then again he's also sat on an eight year contract now so it could be viewed as complacency on his behalf. I like Pardew, but for whatever reason he's not got the team performing anywhere close to their full capability.

His job isn't in danger (and nor should it be) but in my opinion some people on here give off the impression that he can be immune to criticism.

 

I'll defend Pardew too....
as Bespoke said we overachieved last season.
It's a longer game plan and 3-4 years ago I'd have taken your hand off if you had offered me mid table (and comfortably at that).
Great managers like Fergie, Moyes etc.... prove that you need consistency of management to deliver consistency of performance over a season so I for one am not calling for his head.
Yes today was crap but we remember much worse.

 

Getting beat playing good football is one thing, but getting beat playing crap is unnaceptable. We were woeful and got what we deserved.

The linesman on the Milburn side might not have helped the cause but neither did the players on the field.

 

I'm not calling for his head mate (not even close), but people slate players for when they are under performing and Pardew should be no different. I think people would be hard pushed to argue that he hasn't under performed so far this season.

 

I know fella... I was referring to the other thread. it's a game of opinions though and eveyones voice is equal on here.

 

Does anyone find it slightly concerning that we've never won a game when conceding first under Pardew? Doesn't make for great reading.

 

The points we actually have don't tell the full story, we are lucky to be on that amount of points.
We knew the problems we had with the lack of strength and depth we had but we are still depending on clowns like bloody Williamson etc.
Cisse might as well sit in the stand 442 does not work its simple
But why do it ???
We could end up on the wrong side of a hiding of things don't chance

 

When playing 4-4-2 we are poor, when playing long ball we are poor, our one and only set piece tactic (the diagonal to Williamson) is poor. Only a fool will continue to do the same thing and expect a different result, it begs the question why does Pardew to continue to persist with all three of the above when in 11 league games this season we're yet to have one good TEAM performance???

 

Not having a go at Mr Colgate or Newcastle BUT historically Pardew usually does f*ck up in the 2nd season.

 

Actually, no. You're ******ed if you think we're an average PL side that over achieved. Sorry to be the guy that acts aggressive and doesn't accept opinions, but there was far more to it than us just overachieving.

The fact that we're playing **** now and are still picking up points and remaining unbeaten in Europe, and winning due to moments of quality, shows we're a good side with quality.

If we were an average side our season would have ended at christmas last year, when we lost form, but we came back and showed we can win games regardless of how we play.

We're not an average side, and one result could see you fly up the table right now. It's too early to be that worried.

 

Last season was technically his 2nd season. He was with the team for most of the season before.

 

Surely pards is entitled to work through what some fans are calling a rough patch. Bloody hell it was touch and go for a while whether you's got CL football.

 

Some fans are taking it to over the top mate. However, I think most of us are just pointing out the fact that we haven't really put in a great performance all season. We've played about 90 mins of good football all season, and it's worrying.

 

We've just surrender to a defeat against a team managed by Allardyce, that is very unacceptable after what he did here. His transfers set it all in motion replacing Parker with Barton, Solano with Geremi and buying Cacapa to replace Taylor all blatantly bad moves.