James McClean refusing to wear poppy on shirt

shirt lifting little arse wipe, you said i wasnt 10 mins ago, then use my post to verify i am, utter scumbag

 

Hi Rebel

I started a different link on the Saints Board and suggested wearing the EU symbol to celebrate 40 years of EU membership on the shirt. EU membership was approved by both Loyalists and Nationalists in Northern Ireland so surely McClean could not object to that!! Unless he is a member of UKIP which I doubt!!

 

then why do you keep linking James with your own vindictive little points about Ira scumbags.


top trannie, does the avatar rebel boy not switch on the light bulb in your tiny little mind, the ****ers an IRA supporter dip ****.

 

Yeah you certainly swayed me, last night I considered McCleana complete and utter ****, your posts have made me revise that position. I still believe it's much easier to just tow the party line and sit there quietly rather than do something he knows will cause agro, but I can understand where he;s coming from after reading what you said. I do however still agree with other posters that if he is so opposed to all these things, he should not be happy to live in England, pay his taxes to England, but of course he is making a lot of money out of it so he's happy to let that one go by...not as precious as he makes out imo.

I still have my doubts, surely someone as thick as you can't be in the army?

 

I couldn't give a **** who he supports at least he can articulate a civil argument, I don't believe there are any innocent parties in the trouble in Ireland. Now would I rather hear the viewpoint of a suppsoed IRA supporter who is happy to listen to others opinions and give his own in a civil manner, or a supposed paratrooper bumboy like you who can't go 2 posts in a row without making a reference to someone sucking dick or equivalent insults?

 

You can not have your cake and eat it, if I was a professional footballer who could make a living around the globe playing the game and I have republican political views why would I go and help that cause by funding it?
The wearing of the poppy is a display of remembrance, why not wear a white one and then explain why? It may even help persuade others to do so, this simple non conformist rebellious attitude falls right into the hands of the extreme sides of the divide.

 

Then why not explain that and highlight it? I have lived in Ireland and experienced discrimination of the highest order, not all are like that and I have many Irish friends and go over there often but it happens all the same.

 

If he was principled then you would have to ask the question why come to this Country when you know this will arise at some point so he obviously is not that bothered about it, secondly him wearing a poppy or not has nothing to do with the vulture like opportunism the provisionals had in the 70's I have stated that but you stated that the remembrance was a vehicle for money for the forces, that is the same as an atrocity bloody Sunday was an absolute 100% recruitment drive for the IRA that led them to have some of their most effective volunteers in the 70's and 80's.

 

No, there all ****s, .

Now go **** yourself.

MickO'Tool, .

 

Fair enough. I also have spent some time thinking about my experiences with police officers. Now, I hate the bastards, and would never do anything in support of them, and I have only had first hand contact with about 3 of them! Made me realise that may be very similar to McClean taking a stance against the army because of his experience with only a handful, perhaps I've been a little hypocritical.

 

McCleans stance would be admirable if he was transparent over this, the Irish can hardly call the British not open minded and open to different views.
He would in my opinion be respected for them maybe not liked but certainly respected.

 

Oh Billy man, come on lad,, that's just wrong...


Feel free to call me and tell me to **** off....i know you won't mean it. But that statement was just wrong mate.

 

Yes, I appreciate and accept the British army committed some attrocities - yet they pale into insignificance if you consider what the IRA did, how many innocents did they murder, Tim Parry, Jonathan Ball, the Enniskillen Massacre, Paul Maxwell?

No, the greatest atrocities committed against the people of Northern Ireland were by the IRA and UDA criminals for their "cause", that point is not even debatable and cannot be romanticised, defended or justified.

Whilst we should never forget the victims on both sides we must try an reconcile our memories of the past with our hope for the future on a united and peaceful Ireland.