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McGuinness to Celtic?

Discussion in 'Celtic' started by RebelBhoy, Nov 8, 2012.

  1. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    [video=youtube;gAjQrnImT_k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAjQrnImT_k[/video]

    DONEGAL manager Jim McGuinness could end up double-jobbing next year as a move to Celtic grew closer last night.

    McGuinness, 39, is being lined up for a PART-TIME role with Celtic’s youth academy, where he would use his sports psychology background to develop players.
    And a part-time position could allow the All-Ireland-winning boss to stay on with Donegal too.
    The Glenties man has a Masters in sports psychology from John Moores University in Liverpool and also studied in Tralee IT and Jordanstown.
    In recent weeks there has been growing speculation linking him with a move to Celtic.
    He visited Celtic Park earlier this year and last month admitted he would be open to potential offers.
    He said: “If a professional football team or any professional sporting organisation come in and say they’re interested in working with you or interested in talking to you...
    “I’m a young man. I have three kids, a young family, so it’s obviously something you’d have to consider.
    “My background is in sports science and in psychology, and that’s transferable to any sport.”
    Celtic boss Neil Lennon (right) attended September’s All-Ireland final when Donegal triumphed over Mayo, and at the time spoke highly of McGuinness.
    He said: “He is a very intelligent guy and very insightful on all sports really. He came across very impressively.”
    Losing McGuinness would be a massive blow to Donegal’s chances of retaining the Sam Maguire trophy. But he has explored the possibility of remaining at the helm, and that has been one of his main concerns in the negotiations.
    It is unclear exactly how such an arrangement would work but it could see his No 2 Rory Gallagher take on a bigger role within the Donegal management.
    McGuinness is hot property right now after leading Donegal to only their second All-Ireland title. He was a player the first time they did so in 1992.
    He managed his county to an All-Ireland Under-21 final in 2010 before taking charge of the seniors in 2011. Donegal’s 2010 season had ended in a nine-point defeat to Armagh but, in his first year, McGuinness guided them to an Ulster title and an All-Ireland semi-final appearance.
    The defensive tactics that he deployed in the semi-final against Dublin were criticised, but the evolution of this Donegal team during his watch has seen his stock sky-rocket.
    He has previously worked with soccer clubs Finn Harps and Derry City and also spent time with golfer Paul McGinley — who was left hugely impressed.
    McGinley said: “I spent a few hours with Jim and it was enlightening. He’s ground-breaking, innovative.
    “Having listened to a lot of sportspeople over the years, Jim was one of the standout guys I have met.
    “I came away thinking I would absolutely love to play for this guy. His outlook is inspirational.”
     
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  2. Go G YellowScreen

    Go G YellowScreen Well-Known Member

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    Is he the one on the left?
     
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  3. Mind The Duck

    Mind The Duck Well-Known Member

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    This had all ingredients for a Medro style thread
     
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  4. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    The one on the left is a different Jimmy.
     
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    please log in to view this image
     
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  6. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    don't joke, that Jimmy couldn't get to Donegal for their celebrations so they just got another random black guy.
     
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    EspaniaCelt Well-Known Member

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    A brotha from anotha motha?
     
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  8. RebelBhoy

    RebelBhoy Moderator Staff Member

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    To coin a phrase....yes!
     
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  9. Super hooper

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    Rebel bhoy Its not often I agree with you and I might as well continue. Jim McGuinness could very well join Celtic in the new year.
    Talks have taken place with him and Celtic and him and Liverpool. He is very unlikely to accept any offer if there is one from Liverpool.
    The information that I am getting from Donegal is that Mc Guinness would be working almost exclusively with the furst team squad.
    Discussions are taken place as to how much time he needs with the first team and if this would leave him time to have meaningful
    input with Donegal.
    One other thing that may stop him going to Celtic alltogether and that is he has been in talks with Governmen to develop a Sports Pyschology
    University. As Rebel bhoy says, he is the real thing. Most EPL clubs have Pyshologists for a day or so a week but Celtic and McGuinness are
    talking about more time.
     
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  10. Hoopster67

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    My understanding of it is, that he would be more involved in the developement [youth] side of things. But that is only what i have read about it.
     
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  11. RebelBhoy

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    I reckon it is all balls and he'll stay where he is.

    That said, the 3rd year with any GAA team is proving to be the hardest over recent years.
     
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  12. Ciaran

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    Donegal's All-Ireland winning Gaelic Football manager Jim McGuinness is to take up a role with Celtic as a performance consultant.
    A statement from Celtic on Friday confirmed speculation that McGuinness would be joining the club to help with the development of young players.
    The Donegal man is expected to combine his Celtic role with his existing GAA job with his native county.
    McGuinness was quoted as describing his new job as a "fantastic opportunity".
    "I'm very thankful to Neil Lennon for giving me this chance and bringing me into the club," McGuinness told the Celtic website.
    "Obviously I work in amateur sport and the opportunity to work in professional sport in any capacity is a wonderful chance for me

    "My role will be based on developing the younger players in the club, development and Academy players that are U20 and that level.
    "It's really about trying to work on every single one of the players on an individual level, trying to develop them in several areas, something I have experienced often in the past.
    "You are really looking to create a finished product that is good enough to be pushing for the first team and creating a stronger squad at the club."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/northern-ireland/20254492
     
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  13. Super hooper

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    I think it is the best signing Celtic have made since Neil Lennon has taken over as coach. The man is a genius and what
    he can bring to the tale by way of conversation is bound to have some positive affect with everyone he is in contact with.
    I can honesty say that I can see nothing but good for Celtic from employing McGuinness.
    Liverpool were after him too but McGuinness although full of confidence in his own ability reckoned miracles were a step too far.
     
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  14. RebelBhoy

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    I don't want to sound like I am against this as I do think such a position is good for the club but whilst we don't have a full time doctor I think resources might be directed into that first?
     
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  15. Super hooper

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    What do we want a full time doctor for ? Surely we can get a doctor if and when we need one. There isn't any reason why
    we should have a doctor sitting around doing nothing most of the day ?
    Rebel are you sure you are not raising this to be a trite controversial ? I would be inclined to trust the management and the
    board's thinking on something like this, compared to someone who has never been on the board or a senior managerial position
    of a similar operation.
     
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  16. RebelBhoy

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    You mean like when Dylan McGeough was lying unconscious on the grass in Philly?
     
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  17. Albatross

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    Seems pretty definite there. Says he IS coming to Celtic
     
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  18. Albatross

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    My understanding is that he would actually be part time.
     
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  19. RebelBhoy

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    From the Gherald.

    And my cards on the table, Donegal were ****ing disgusting in 2011. Rank rotten negative hoorbags.

    There's black and white . . . and then there's McGuinness
    Brendan Crossan
    TWO years ago, Jim McGuinness was the revolutionary whom Gaelic football didn't want.

    The game was fine the way it was. It didn't need a giddy rebellion in the rolling hills of Ireland's north-west.

    Gaelic football's aristocracy in the south wheezed every time McGuinness's Donegal team took to the field last year. Donegal were outcasts who had disobeyed the game's orthodox teachings. They were pilloried for playing a uniquely calibrated defensive system of football.

    Donegal were one big turn-off. Of course, successful teams that went before McGuinness had been innovative; forward-thinking coaches began viewing the game from a different angle. In the last decade, some coaches placed greater emphasis on defending. Forwards began shuttling back into defensive positions – but nobody placed as many players in defensive areas as McGuinness.

    In their 2011 All-Ireland semi-final defeat by Dublin – it ended 0-8 to 0-6, a desperately austere, low-scoring encounter in Gaelic football terms – Donegal, for long periods, played all but one of their 15 starting players in defensive areas. The face of Gaelic football had changed forever.

    There was outrage among the GAA punditry. The game was no longer about individual duels in designated areas of the field. The new version of Gaelic football, practised by McGuinness, had morphed into a puzzle about space and how best to utilise it.

    There are thinkers of the game – and there is Jim McGuinness. In his first year, he was lambasted for playing negative football. In 2012, he was lauded for transforming Donegal into the most devastating counter-attacking team in the country, and undoubtedly the fittest there has been.

    To understand Donegal's defensive tactics, you first had to understand Donegal. They hadn't won a meaningful game in three years before McGuinness took over. "It was like a dog that had been battered," he said. "You call it and it won't come to you. That was the kind of situation we were in."

    Before the former county player assumed the reins, the Donegal players had nurtured an unflattering image of being the party boys of Gaelic football, a talented crew, but never keen on putting the hard yards in. That would change irreversibly under McGuinness.

    The Glenties clubman was destined to be a coach. "I started coaching when I was about 16 with under-12 teams at the [Glenties] club," he explained. "It was always something that I enjoyed doing."

    During his playing days, McGuinness was full of flair. Back then, there was spontaneity about Gaelic football. The game was an entirely different spectacle.

    McGuinness was part of the Donegal side that last won the All-Ireland title in 1992. Ironically, McGuinness the player and McGuinness the manager reside at different ends of the spectrum.

    Throughout his playing career he was an engaging, heart-on-the-sleeve personality for the media. Armed with a diploma in sports studies and a degree and a masters in sports psychology, he had applied for the Donegal job three times before he was successful, but served an invaluable apprenticeship with the county's under-21 side.

    When he took over, Donegal may not have been the most charismatic of sides, but their manager had bags of the stuff. McGuinness doesn't walk into a room. He swoons. He can work a room of journalists with the best of them.

    Anyone who meets the 39-year-old will be impressed. He is articulate, engaging, sincere and at times funny; but there can be a sharp, unforgiving side too. At the end of the 2011 campaign, McGuinness controversially axed one of his key players, Kevin Cassidy, for revealing minor details of Donegal's new regime in a local GAA book.

    While Cassidy was exceptionally generous in his praise of the new manager in the book, McGuinness nevertheless deemed the player's actions as a breach of trust. Cassidy was gone. But it didn't end there.

    Moments after he had guided Donegal to an unlikely All-Ireland title in September, McGuinness refused to carry out his post-match press conference until the book's author, also a working journalist, was ejected from the room. It was an unseemly and desperately ill-timed episode.

    McGuinness shares a nerdish love for many team sports. It's been a long-held ambition of his to become involved in professional sport. He didn't have a day job while managing Donegal last year.

    Nobody on this side of the Irish Sea expects McGuinness to be anything other than a resounding success as Celtic's new performance analyst. There is, however, the nagging feeling that perhaps he should relinquish the Donegal reins.

    "Rather than try to hold on to the Donegal job," wrote Armagh's All-Ireland winner turned respected pundit, Oisin McConville, "he should walk away . . . I don't think it is possible to serve two masters".

    McGuinness insists he won't miss one Donegal training session in 2013 and that his Celtic role is initially a "couple of days a week". Knowing McGuinness's meticulous nature, he will probably have already enrolled in a time management crash-course.

    In McGuinness, the Scottish champions have hired a radical thinker and an immensely likeable individual who will do whatever it takes to succeed in his chosen field. Celtic's academy players will not have realised it yet, but they couldn't have asked for a better mentor than the Glenties native.
     
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  20. Super hooper

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    Dylan was treated excellently when he was lying on the artificial surface in the States. Whether we have a full time doctor or not
    is totally irrelevant, as even Celtic Doctors cannot be in two places at the one time. If you want to have a doctor present everytime
    you have contract activity going on I suggest you would need to have more than one doctor.
    Maybe having access to doctors is more important than employing one. But of course Rebel you know best.
    Maybe that is why you are quoting one of the few double addicts that can give an opinion, what it is worth maybe not much.

    I won't say anything bad about Jim, however as a husband and father of three young children, maybe the fact that is
    wife is a high earning solicitor, maybe reduced his need for a day job.
     
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