It's ironic that the YP picked up on this as you posted it, but it's entirely possible Bruce or the Allams have told someone how good a deal it was who told someone else who told someone else and so on so essentially anyone who found out would have done at the same time. And by Proschwitz barely costing a penny, bad way of putting it, I meant how you claim he cost alot less than reported. I never for one minute believed he cost the reported 2.6m euros (and in todays exchange that's probably about £2.3m at a rought guess), as articles were dug up before our interest got leaked of his old club saying they'd be willing to let him go for 1.5m euros, so why would we pay more than the asking price? Also Allams are likely to haggle so what you claim about Prozzy is probably correct. And about the wild claims, I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from, you've never really come up with stuff in the past that has been proven correct until now, and those are 2 very big claims to say 'you can either believe me or not but I can't prove it', anyone could make anything up and say that, know what I'm saying? (also got to refer back to the point where I said I don't believe you'd make up bullshit here too). And in re another post I made a bit ago and never followed up on, when I said about naming sources, I didn't mean literally dish the names out, I meant it doesn't hurt to say 'someone at the club told me' or 'I heard it in the players lounge' or whatever, just helps to back up your claim, rather than it seemingly coming from nowhere.
Did The Allams try to inflate Proschwitz's transfer fee to the media when he signed, to try and make them seem more ambitious and now he isn't doing so well they have decided to imply he didn't cost that much after all?
I dont think there has been any suggestion that has happened. I first posted this yonks ago shortly after he'd arrived and the club has publicly said nothing about his fee since as far as Im aware. As OLM suggests, it suited both parties to claim in the media that his fee was higher than it was - it made Nick's supposed criticism about lack of financial backing look ill-advised and took the heat off from their fans for selling.
But is it really a wise idea, our fans could question value for money at that price and find better options available with that money, and won't paderborns fans be wondering where that 2.6m is and why it's not being reinvested in the team? Is there anywhere either club has states the transfer fee or is every valuation of the transfer been published purely by the press?
Quinn and Aluko are great steals from our point of view. Rangers fans I know said they were surprised Aluko didn't go to a Premier League side and Sheffield United supporters are absolutely gutted that they lost Quinn. You can bloody see why. At £2,000 per game, it's unbelievable. Brilliant snatches by Bruce.
So this seems to say that Quinn could cost a lot more than that 100,000 pounds if we are promoted and even more if we stay up past that first year. 100,000 Maximum at 2,000 a game +six figure amount if promoted +six figure amount if we stay up +15% when and if we sell him If we go up and stay there it seems the amount quoted when we signed him of 350,000 could turn out to be the real amount. http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...-banking-on-stephen-quinn-s-success-1-5096328 "SHEFFIELD United could receive more than £100,000 for Stephen Quinn following the midfielder’s transfer to Hull City. Steve Bruce, the Championship club’s manager, described the former Republic of Ireland under-21 international as “a real bargain” last weekend after it was revealed his fee, priced at £2,000 per match, was capped at 50 games. However, as The Star reported following Quinn’s move to East Yorkshire three months ago, numerous other clauses were inserted into the agreement which means officials at Bramall Lane are hopeful of recouping significantly more than that amount. Indeed, United have a vested interest in ensuring Bruce achieves success at the KC Stadium. Danny Wilson’s team, who return to League One action at Swindon Town tonight, are understood to be entitled to a further six figure payment should City reach the top-flight before Quinn’s contract expires. Having also negotiated a sell-on clause, likely to be worth around 15 per cent, United will then bank another should their rivals avoid an immediate return to the second tier."
In the grand scheme of things, the add-on's triggered by promotion are peanuts. And it seems he was on less than £10k at the Blades, so the wage isn't ridiculous either.
Agreed. Perhaps this is explains the discrepancy between the Pro 2.9 million and the rumored 1 million. Perhaps it is 1 million with the same sort of add-ons attached bringing the possible total to 2.9 million.
That's a fair point actually. I dont know the ins and outs of the deal but it could well be. Perhaps the 3.3m euros is a maximum we could ever pay if Prosser goes on to win the Ballon d'or and score a Champions League winning goal for us. And as stated the clauses in Quinn's deal are peanuts. We'd be over the moon to have to pay them clauses which says it all.
Exactly, 350k for a premiership player (which he would obviously be if we got promoted and then avoided relegation) is nothing
I'm thinking more that in a normal transfer the fee is split over the length of the contract, and if the player signs a new contract the remaining cost is split over the length of the new contract. So Quinn signing in a 2 year deal for £100k would "cost" us £50k this year, he'd then sign a new contract (say 2 years again) and the fee would be split £25k each year, meaning we were "paying" for him in his 3rd year here. On this one the cost is a direct result of him playing a specific game so each time he plays we get to claim the whole amount as a cost there and then. By the end of this season we could have claimed £80k of it, and we'll almost certainly have done the whole amount by the end of next season (Y2). In terms of FFP it means the cost of signing him would be largely going in this year when we're probably going to make a loss anyway, and will disappear from our rolling 3 year balance much earlier than it would.
For once a good post from you. Steve Bruce was on cloud nine when burgled Turner off us back in 2009. Even Bent said they got a great player cheap. Bruce is good for bargains. Yes they do and also get some money into the coffers John. Nowt wrong with doing it this way. Very sensible actually when you think about it more. Good that the Allams have done it this way and the Blunts get a regular stream of cash arriving into there bank account. Who cares what City paid for Proschwitz after what we paid for Faye - Aluko - Quinn and even Bruce jnr. All 5 add upto very little really and have greatly improve the squad. Would Nick Barmby have had this pull i wonder ? sadly no.!!! Steals for those 2 does not really sum it up, imo. Surprised that the serious crime squad are not looking into both of the deals. Lol.
You can't justify someone's transfer fee by saying the free transfers have been good tickler. Whether Sone Aluko has been great or not makes no difference tithe fact prozzy has been ****e and we've well overpaid on what we've seen so far. That money could have bought someone like, say Frazier Campbell in, who would have every chance of sitting pretty up there on 10+ goals already.
