Shocking refereeing bias towards Man Utd

I know a City fan from Wales, south Wales at that. He's supported them 30 years, been a season ticket holder for 12.

Guys a complete twat, but can't fault his support.

 

Mike Dean was the one who gave them a penalty after Rooney dived in the 2009/10 season.
The **** also sent Wenger to the stands for kicking a water bottle after a legit goal for us in the very last second for an equaliser got ruled out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4lMbSr2ZYk



To be precise:
We only won 1 out the last 15 games he refereed.
The one game we won was the demolition of Spurs last season, even that was quite controversial as he gave them a penalty after a blatant dive by Bale. And he 'celebrated' the first Spurs goal.

It can't be a coincidence that we keep getting him in our big games, both NLD's last season and the Utd home game (but there were no real controversies as it wasn't at Old Trafford).


I mentioned our last 15 games with only one win under Mike Dean, lets look at the oppponents:

Chelsea: 3x
Tottenham: 3x (including 5-2 win despite key decision going against us)
Manchester United: 3x (We got 16 yellow cards in total in just three(!!) games; United got 5...)
Manchester City: 2x
(Other four are QPR, Fulham, Newcastle and Burnley; 2 London rivals and another big club in Newcastle)

So 10 of the 14 recent games we haven't won under Mike Dean in recent years were against our rivals or the Manchester teams.
36 yellow cards in total in the 11 big games, as mentioned above, 16 of them came in just three games against Manchester United.

Any referee with a record like this against Man Utd would have been relegated to League 2 and would never get the big games again.

Damn, this post makes me look quite bitter but facts are facts.

 

Good evening Shwan

 

As a neutral fan in English football, i think that Manchester United get the majority of referee decisions in their favour. Lots of the decisions against them are minor.

This happen a lot too in Spain. My team and Barca get nearly all the important decisions.

I look at debatable decisions link but their is no method explained. This is just a fan probably a Man Utd fan making himself feel better. The telegraph is main media so should be discounted. Even looking at that, they are not analysing all the decisons. All these sites analysing decison are silly, just more bias. You need to just look yourself and be honest. Bias is there for the biggest clubs.

 

When teams like stoke get a lucky decision against United they probably still lose, so no one remembers it or cares. When United get a lucky decision and win every cretin remembers it as "proof" of bias.

Its been proved some teams had far more wrong decisions in their favour last year and United had more going against them. Your own bias causes you to dismiss everything that counters your already made judgement, like the links provided. Suuure they're all biased aren't they, the problem couldn't possibly be you?

If United get a lucky decision today you'll instantly think "more proof of United bias", if Arsenal get one it'll be a mistake and quickly forgotten. If Sunderland get three lucky decisions and win you probably won't even know they happened.

You are biased against United and it colours your whole perception of this issue.

 

Where has it been proved that Utd get the bad decisions? Those links do not even cover all decisions and one of them does not even list there method. You too easily believe this analysis because it fits what you want. The other link from an Arsenal fan is also not useful. It shows Arsenal are penalised but I think Arsenal too get good decisions as they are a big club.

This link which is also silly shows bias towards Manchester United

http://www.sabotagetimes.com/footba...-of-the-manchester-united-referee-conspiracy/

There are hundreds of links which shows bias to United but you are using two that show opposite and pretending it is proof.

None of the links are proof.

I am a Real fan and admit we get the decisions in our favor. I am not biased when it comes to watching English football.

 

Obviously you are because you dismiss evidence that differs from your own preconceived ideas.

Do you watch every English football game and take note of every decision the ref got wrong? No, you have this idea some clubs get preferential treatment despite having no facts to back it up.

Maybe it seems big clubs get decisions because you tend to watch those clubs play more, maybe when a big club gets a lucky decision it more often results in a game changing result in their favour or maybe your have a perceptual bias and only remember things that agree with you.

If you take a select sample of data such as when ref X referees X team, or Everton V Villa you might get some skewed results showing one side coming out on top but there is no evidence whatsoever of any bias to any club in England, each year some benefit and some don't.

 

No concrete 'evidence' maybe, but there are plenty of incidents that are undeniablely biased towards Utd.
It's only the Utd fans who can't see it and that ladies and gentlemen, is bias at work again.

 

I've been an Arsenal fan for over 40 years and i attend 90% of our home games.I saw Stretford play live twice last season which is twice more than any Stretford fan i know.How often do you go to watch Stretford play and how long have you supported them ?You must live pretty close to the Devil Bowl to be able to still be posting on this site with just over an hour to kick off

 

Ivor Biggun is the textbook Man Utd 'fan'. He's got all indications about referees favouring United but in the style of a 5 year old closes his eyes and ignores them.
How about putting something together to show that other teams get just as many decisions their way as United?

You will spend a long time looking for answers...

 

Utter bollocks, go and do some research and prove yourself wrong

 

I hope you can see how that makes you look. You have shown preconceived ideas and I do not think you watch every minute of every game.

 

Well Mike Dean is a bit of a ****.


He runs like a ****ing gay too.

 

The reason teams like Barca, Man Utd, Chelsea, even Arsenal get the decisions is that these are the better teams, when Arsenal play against teams who they should be beating they have more possession, more chances and that means they have a better chance of decisions going their way. This is called percentages, the more times you get in the box and make chances, take people on the more % you have of getting a decision for you rightly or wrongly.

When the big clubs play against each other then its whoever takes the most risks will be rewarded rightly or wrongly, at the end of the day the more times Utd or Barca get in the box, have more possesion the more chance they have of getting decisions giving for them.

Its not their fault the decisions go there way, I remember Newecastle at Old Trafford last year perfect example of Utd not getting a decision going their way.(Penalty decision) But these are rare as not many teams will be in United's penalty box as United will be in the oppositions penalty area so Utd have a better chance of getting the %'s of these decisions. (correct or not correct)

 

So that's 3 games in a row now where United should have gone down to 10 men.

Nobody will argue Wilshere's red was justified as was the pen but Cleverly should have been off for the most cynical foul you'll see which under normal circumstances would have been a 2nd yellow.

Much like with Rooney at SB, Fergie withdrew his player as he knew they'd rode their "luck".

Arsenal undone by more shocking refereeing.

 

No, we were undone by being thoroughly ****e.

 

At the time we were the better team and if Cleverly had got the red card it would have been a totally different game.

 

It's all if's, but's and maybe's. The fact is we lost, we deserved to lose, and we better improve sharpish or we're going to be killed by Schalke on tuesday.

 

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! Arsenal were lucky they weren't on the receiving end of a spanking.

By the way goonercymraeg, nice to see you trot out the "ive supported Arsenal for 40 years" argument again. You sure are fond of claiming it, maybe one day there'll be a thread where you don't drag it up.

Didn't Arsenal win a league and cup double 40 years ago? Guess we know where your bitterness comes from! You sure picked the wrong team to gloryhunt. It also explains this constant need to say what a great supporter you are while questioning everyone else. Insecure much?

 

You were undone by both. As bad as Arsenal were, United were only slightly better. If United go down to 10, it's a different ball game.