well true. he is adamant (no, he's not the pop star) that there is no place in football for a long ball
You see, the point is regarding England being direct is the best way to win things, Pyjamas seems to think England have been trying to copy Spain for the last few years. This is ridiculous to be honest, in no shape or form do England play or attempt to play like Spain. The reason England give the ball away so easily is because they are still so direct (coupled with hopeless players admittedly), trying to score on every attack, relying on pace and power. No patience, they are just to eager to give that ball away, it is just part of the DNA. Over reliance on physical traits, Rooney, Gerrard, Terry, Lampard, Crouch, Carroll, Jagielka et al. They only dare let the little players out when they are on the wing or paired up front with someone big. So ****ing predictable talk about 20 years out of touch. There is a reason why direct doesn't work, nobody ever wins anything playing it. Brazil have now tried it and not come close to winning. The Germans have tried it and blown it (and continue to do so, thankyou Klinsmann) The French were quite direct but they were not direct by playing balls into space (ENgland yay) it was balls to feet, dribbling AND passing across and back and midfield. A reliance on skill set. England direct is balls into space or balls to chest for an attacker to get rid of ASAP. Balls into space is easy to read and easy to play, balls into feet is more difficult to pass and receive but much, much harder to defend against. I cannot think of a single International team who have ever won a tournament since my time of watching international football by playing the England way. Why?? because its to easy to play against when you have a decent team who aren't stupid like the teams in the qualifiers. You get found out. My own opinion is that the present England team needs to set an example to the next generation as to how to play, win or lose. What on earth are the kids mean't to think when Andy Carroll is playing up front with Gerrard banging long up to his head. I still cannot believe, despite all the evidence, despite the fact we have a hopeless team, barely register on big tournaments, despite financing dwarfing the World, despite Spain dominating, and yet people still cling to the ethos that England knows best. There is no point carrying on doing the same thing and expecting us to suddenly start winning things. It has got to change.
as usual, you are in a minority of one. i've said it before and i'll say it again: i don't think you have any clue what you are talking about when it comes to football. i don't care if you don't like me saying that or what you say back cos just like your comments here, it'll be wrong
The reason why England have tried to play like Spain and you can't see it is because we suck at it. Therefore it's not as effective and it doesn't look good.
I could try to play like Messi and it won't look like I'm Messi because I suck at playing football and can't play as effectively as Messi can.
some people may think i'm being unfair towards carrabuh but i simply cannot understand how an individual who proclaims to be a football fan can have such little grip of the game. my mum would easily beat him in an argument about the game. genuinely.
.........that's why lansbury was so peed off last season when he was on loan. had a sore neck looking up to watch the ball sailing over his head.
he's not really kicked on as expected, has he. lansbury is at forest this year but is a bit-part player once again.
I think the main thing is that you can't be too one dimensional. Say on one side of the spectrum you have stoke and west ham, on the other Swansea and arsenal. One plays direct, one plays the passing game. Both are perfectly acceptable ways of playing the game but it's at the point where you have no flexibility that problems arise. It applies to both styles as well. If you can nullify a physical side like stoke that has no backup option, it will fall over. EXACTLY the same with a possession/passing side (we proved this last year at Swansea away) The key is flexibility gentlemen. If you can adapt your side to the different environments it's likely to encounter then your far more likely to do well.
Ouch! Sounds nasty! All on the same knee? I have one leg that's slightly shorter than the other as well as some other injuries/problems with my legs, hence why I'm called wonky!
I fail to see how I am in the majority of one, listen to any commentator, any pundit with a modicum of intelligence and every single one will bang on about an inability to keep the ball. Now I know we don't have the players to do that (as I said earlier but seems to have been ignored), my point is you still have to try, and I mean properly try. Not give up as soon as we lose a goal or the crowd start complaining because they are bored. If you are seriously saying England have been copying Spain for the last few years then you are sorely wrong. We don't try and pass through teams (except the very poor ones). As soon as we go up against a good side its either hit long to the wings (or Carroll) by Gerrard or 10 men behind the ball. This perfectly desribes your "England way" adapting because the players are not good enough. Do you really want to watch that!!! again and again and again. I really do fail to see any resemblance between England and Spain, I'm pretty sure the.Spanish would guffaw at the comparison. So despite what you say about my knowledge I'm pretty confident that learning the Spanish way is a good few years ahead of what your suggesting. My opinion is how on earth are they ever going to learn to be that team OTHER good teams have to adapt too. We just have to rough it out for a few years by learning and doing it the hard way for a bigger reward. Are England more likely to win games playing direct, presently yes. Are England remotely close to winning a tournament, no. Are England likely to win a tournament with a passing game, no, not with the present players. But I'd say they are much more likely to win a tournament if they stuck with it in 10/15 years time when they could truly be adaptable. The players Playing long balls to feet when the chance is truly there (not all the time), mixed with strangling the opposition with possession. Spain won't rule for ever, the next great team will pass, pass, pass but alot, lot quicker. That would be a true "England way" to be proud of. Should only take about 20 years!!!
What you're, again, missing carrabuh is they TRY to play like Spain not that they actually do play like Spain.
No wonky, they DON'T!! you just think they do because compared to the Premiership England are a bit slower and more patient. That doesn't make it Spain, its just a slower version of direct. Do you see Xavi hitting those long Gerrard like crosses into the box? and so damn regularly, it just doesn't happen, they stick to there guns and learn how to work it out.
