You just did Altjhough I agree that we should concentrate on current situations considering we are talking about existing players are don't have a time machine to enable them to play in one of the great Liverpool teams of the past, I can't help but think your having a bit of a sly dig here Wrong! Comparisons between the two players stats had started before I commented, hence me making reference to Gerrard vs Lampard Wasn't that my point... ie - Would Suarez perform better at Man Utd because he'd have better players around him
We was talking about Suarez but someone questioned his scorer/assist levels and added that Rooney gets more assists, possibly saying more consistent too? can't remember and can't be arsed to look back
Setting aside your fervent desire to present Suarez as a great humanitarian and one of the finest footballers to grace this planet, do you really think he is anywhere near as good a player as Beardsley was?
No let's not. Suarez isn't fit to lace Beardsleys boots & merely comparing the buck toothed horror to one of the games great gentlemen is an insult to the man.
Why are you comparing Robson and Gerrard's club careers with Rooney's international career. Gerrard will never win the league title and Robson only did at the tail end of his career when he was largely a squad player. Neither carried England to success. Gerrard in particular has had a spectacularly underachieving England career if we're to believe that he genuinely is one of the world's great midfielders as the press insist. The last bit about Rooney failing to fulfil his potential is true of Gerrard, Lampard and many others. What Rooney will have to look back on is a bucket load more medals than most so arguably the best of a bad bunch. The comparison is bollocks. No offence KPR/SKD but it's not even up to your usual standard of ****e. And I don't even like Rooney and do think he's a overrated by the press!
What a load of bollox Did George Best under achieve then...? What about Ryan Giggs...? Neither ever did anything internationally because they had the misfortune of playing for a poor Wales side that never qualified for anything. A player should be judged on how they perform over their career and not purely on what they win.
You've completely missed the point. KPR compared Rooney's England career with Robson and Gerrard's club careers, completely ignoring what Rooney has done for and achieved with his club and completely ignoring what Gerrard and Robson did for and achieved with England. It was a ****e comparison thought out by a twat!
Fair enough, I just don't think you can judge a player on a teams achievements. Despite it being well stocked, Gerrard is/was a far better player than his medal collection suggests. I think the same can be said for a player like Robson, Shearer too. Then there are others that have a better medal collection than their abilities suggest they should such as Nicky Butt or Mikel
Loved Beardsley. Suarez is still developing. With the correct players around him (as Beardsley had) he will add another dimension to his game. NOF is just a tosspig full stop. No offence
The historical bit was brought up by RSM with his list of trophies and saying that Liverpool was the biggest club after Real Madrid. Which to most neutrals is quite laughable. Mind you dont all fans say their club is the best and the biggest? The other point to bear in mind is whether Suarez will deliver the goods for Brendan Rodgers. This is a team game and howver brillant a player is he has to fit into the team and the system being played. It is not unknown to have the top scorer in the league coming from a mid table or low lying team. If Suarez scored 90% of all the goals but the team is not collecting enough points, would the manager not be right in reviewing his whole team including the top scorer? How many times have we seen clubs selling their top scorers? As you all seem to agree that it is should be about the team, then if the team is still in the bottom half by mid season, the manager would be right to look at his strikeforce again and that includes Suarez's position ... As for Beardsley, I agree with many of the other posters. In ALL areas on and off the field Beardsley was one of the best and most respected players of your club and Suarez is not anywhere close..
Absolutely. I'll probably get lynched for this comment but... part of me thinks we'd be better off selling Suarez. He is a difficult player to accommodate in the side and, although he closes down / defends from the front, I am not convinced h is a complete team player. He'd much rather do it all on his own then set a teammate up IMO. Plus, we'd get £30m+ for him which would enable us to get two quality players instead. However, if it come down to it, would I actually sell him...? I doubt it. Why, because other than his finishing he is a top top player who can unlock the strongest defences. Teams worry about him, this can take the attention away from others so if we were to add a decent CF they find more space with Luis in the side If Suarez could finish I am convinced he would be considered world class by most. He would be getting to the heights of Messi, Ronaldo and co IMO. But, his finishing is so poor that he is no where near that level t the minute for me and I'd put him on a par with Rooney
I hope you keep him, so that makes you right mate He's a player that flatters to deceive, his finishing is poor & yet he's deemed by some reds to be 'world class'. The truth is that he isn't world class at all, he's a very talented footballer, who isn't a good enough finisher to be relied upon to deliver goals in games were you might only get a couple of chances - his 12% conversion rate bears that out. When you add in the controversy / bad PR he's brought to your door with his antics & on pitch behaviour, imo he's a liability to Liverpool football club. He appears to have become bigger than the club in some quarters, with his actions not being questioned / viewed in an objective manner. You could realistically get £30M for him & in Jan you could also realistically bring in Walcott, Huntelaar & Ba, & still have change out of that fee! Luis must stay!!!
You utter twat. That was decades ago, cannot compare, but nice to see you try back a tarded comment with something about 2 players you know fk all about. Tell us why Beardsley was so much better? Please break it down, surely you've worked this out and are not talking through your arse,
