"Beefy's Corner".......For all off Topic threads

Hi, I have started a new Beefy's corner thread as this one is becoming a bit unwieldy. In a day or so I will open the new thread and close this one (it won't be deleted, so you can still check it out) in order to make it a bit more manageable for those using mobile devices.

 

Was the Declaration of Independence as a result of the French Revolution - a bloody and often unreasonable series of events, or was it born out of a wider "Enlightenment" within European intellectual circles?

Funny, isn't it, that the Nazi party gained power through Democracy, then ensured their ultimate control by dispatching it.

 

It didn't start with slavery.

 

As a survival instinct. Almost all living things have an inherent fear of any other living thing which is unfamiliar and could pose a physical threat. The smarter of those species are capable of creating "proxies" for coalition membership (e.g. lions are members of "prides", wolves are members of "packs") and they are generally hostile to anything outside of those groups. We have historically used race as a proxy, presumably as far back as a million years ago when we wiped out the neanderthals.

To answer your question, I have no idea when it started, but it would presumably be a very early species, long before dinosaurs. Life has been intelligent enough to create these "proxies" for hundreds of millions of years, but only very recently have we evolved to the point where we don't need to do this.

 

Define "race".

 

No, it was inspired by the french revolution, that's what books say anyway...

The nazi power gained power due to a number of circunstances. Germany was in a poor state due to the their defeat in the first world war, sanctions (financial and political) were imposed on them a weaker country, thus making their economy avery weak one, inflation was through the roof and confidence in Democracy, was sadly very low and they wanted change and Hitler told them that he would get the country strong again and he did, but it came with dire consequences. I don't know any other dictator that was democratically elected, ever apart from Hitler.

 

I guess it's each to his own in that regard. Some (pricks) would go for "British", others would go for the more expansive "whites". A "proxy" that an individual creates can be any demographic within which he feels comfortable.

I've had plenty of tedious debates before as to what exactly constitutes a separate "race" but I reckon it's just a fairly vague term.

 

Don't really need a year 7 history lesson. We all know how the war started thanks.

 

A competition between two things doing something over a set distance, time or other parameter.

 

Yeah, I don't agree with you there mate. You make a good point by saying that we see something unfamiliar and assume that it is a threat, but I don't understand how some races have become more evolved than others, like Europeans were so much evolved than Africans in the colonial years, why though?
The same applies with Native Americans, why were they so backwards?

That's good .

 

No idea what this has to do with anything, but I'll go along with it. You're going to hate me saying this, but Europe excelled because it was united for long periods of time, when Africa and Asia were constantly war-torn and going through upheaval after upheaval. Europe had access to lots of resources and set up vast trade routes (cough EU cough). Also you've got the fact that Greece introduced democracy and Rome spread countless innovations throughout its empire. Basically, Europe got a headstart and was able to travel the world first, claiming all of the valuable land and resources.

This has nothing to do with what we were talking about before though, so I'm not sure what the relevance of this is.

 

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It's got nothing to do with anything, but I go on about other stuff, namely, the EU, something that I don't like.

Yes, we all know that so much good has come out of Europe. You say "when Africa and Asia were constantly war-torn and going through upheaval after upheaval" so was Europe, there was always wars in Europe, only in the last 60 years has there been very little wars in Europe, the exception is the wars in Yugoslavia/ Bosnia where the EU did bugger all there.

Don't understand why the Europeans were so much smarter than most of the World, what were they doing when the Portuguese and Spanish started discovering new territories?

 

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Yes there was war in Europe, but not much upheaval so to speak. It would generally just be that one monarch/government would replace another and things would continue as normal. Everyone in Europe was on the same wavelength for extended periods of time, firstly united behind the hugely successful Roman Empire, and later behind the Catholic church. It was the resources and technologies that they had access to as a collective that allowed them to advance. Meanwhile, fundamentalist Muslims were burning all records of maths and science because they had been declared as work of the devil, and Genghis Khan was raping everything from Peking to Baghdad.

Bosnia, Yugoslavia, Serbia, Croatia, etc. were not in the EU then, and they still aren't. The EU had no interest in that mess.

 

There have been so many wars in Europe over the years just look at the Anglo-French wars. What about Africans and Native Americans? What were they doing?

I know that those countries weren't in the EU and still aren't, but the EU had a goal that war would never happen in Europe.

 

Again, I'm not saying there haven't been any wars, I'm saying that the majority of people weren't affected by those wars, and trade and all that continued. Africans and Native Americans were fairly tribal, as I'm sure you know. The north of Africa had been affected by the Egyptians, Romans, Carthaginians, etc. so the likes of Egypt and Morocco did quite well, but sub-Saharan Africa remained almost totally tribal until they were invaded by various empires, and then let's just say they weren't treated very well. Native Americans were totally separated from the rest of the world and didn't have a clue about any of it.

 

Yes, I know they were tribal, but why were they? Why weren't they inventing stuff like the Europeans were doing?

 

Different land, different resources. Also there's a pattern that the most successful economies all had a nearby coastline. Landlocked countries have a significant disadvantage by not being able to trade or travel by sea, and fishing was also a massive industry.