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Shocking refereeing bias towards Man Utd

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by PINKIE, Oct 28, 2012.

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  1. Ivor Biggun

    Ivor Biggun Member

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    I think its hilarious the "kindergarten" and subs bench almost won and put 4 goals past a team that included Mata, Hazard, Oscar, Cech, Cahill, Luiz.... That team would have turned your lot over!

    Good job on overcoming Reading by the way, you really showed your class as you powered past them. Im sure you'll scrape 4th spot on this form.
     
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  2. Mantis

    Mantis Well-Known Member

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    Not with our reserves and subs we won't. <ok> Thanks for the kind wishes though...
     
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  3. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    To go back to the original subject, everyone is bashing Clattenburg over the Torres sending off, but the guy takes two steps after he is kicked and then goes down. Now, you can say the referee should have seen the kick and you can say that he should have been absolutely sure before he red carded someone, but for any young player out there, I can tell you that, as a referee, if I see a player take two steps and then go down, it looks really suspicious and just odd, particularly if he is in balance and not falling over anyway.

    I think the players need to be more careful, with that. Slow down and make it absolutely clear you are not diving. Help the referee.
     
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  4. The Bonstar Wandit

    The Bonstar Wandit Well-Known Member

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    Talking of bias, I have to say that awarding that Cahill goal last night was a piece of sensational work by the Linesman. It happened so fast, and was the correct decision, massively impressive.
     
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  5. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    The ref did really well last night, he had to make some big calls. He pretty much got them all spot on.

    and Utd lost

    Uncanny ?

    <whistle>
     
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  6. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    It was a good call and often misjudged, so all credit to him for calling it. I still think GL technology would be better than relying on the linesman though.
     
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  7. Bergkampspilot

    Bergkampspilot Active Member

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    Piskie if you introduce goal line technology into football that's about 80% of control you have taken away from footballs authorities. Harder to influence games and certainly harder to to make a suspect call look kosher. Anyhow when we see goal line technology you can take that as a sign that football is truly ready to get its house in order.
     
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  8. Bergkampspilot

    Bergkampspilot Active Member

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    Shwan you imbecile. Explain how I have gone back nine years? Are you **** at maths or have a bad memory? I'm guessing your both of those things. Also my response about our unbeaten run coming to an end is a reply to one of your fans who said our unbeaten run was basically down to favouritism and suspect calls. Which led me to point out that it ended at the hands of a cheating, diving, shrek lookalike who uses rogain and sleeps with old women. Not to mention a very very weak ref who probably had a glass of red with fergie after the game for doing such a grand job.
     
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  9. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    Shwan, this blog site has done a massive review of refereeing decisions and calculated refereeing bias. Now I am sure that a lot of people will say that it isn't scientific but they have probably done as much as anyone can to analyze referees performances. Anyway, let's just say that with Mike Dean in charge on Sunday Arsenal's chances of a win are low to say the least! They have an interesting take on Clatternburg and the incident as well, which probably will not go down well in your eyes, or Chelsea fans.

    http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/24237

    http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/16827

    http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/25760
     
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  10. Mantis

    Mantis Well-Known Member

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    Yes all big clubs, hell, all clubs benefit from some dodgy refereeing at some stage. But that's not the point. We are talking about the consistent incorrect decisions awarded to one particular team, when it matters and the constant brown-nosing of referees by Slur Alex.
     
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  11. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    The article gives the latest suspected reason for that, and it has nothing directly to do with SAF.

    Basically it says that Mike Riley the "Head Referee" is a Manchester United fan. If you are a referee in England and you want your career to go anywhere; if you want to continue getting premiership games and you want to get games in Europe to referee; you make sure you don't make a mistake that goes against Manchester United.
     
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  12. Ivor Biggun

    Ivor Biggun Member

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    Last year referee decisions cost United the title.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...-survey-highlights-Premier-League-errors.html

    http://www.debatabledecisions.com/previous-seasons

    Several websites including the Independent and debatabledecisions provided "real" or adjusted PL tables which changed results based on referee errors. Both have United finishing top, getting more decisions against them than for. Whereas as both claim Arsenal benefited from more bad decisions than went against them! Shock Horror!

    Yes United get some lucky decision, so do Arsenal, Chelsea and even Stoke.

    And yes, if you analyse every ref and his decisions for United you'll find some who are favourable a lot of the time..... and some who screw us over repeatedly.

    The only bias is from jealous rival fans. Suck it up.
     
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  13. Mantis

    Mantis Well-Known Member

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    Newsflash, the ones who screwed United were never allowed to ref their matches again or relegated to lower leagues. <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>
    And stop commenting on my posts it's becoming creepy and weird.
     
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  14. Ivor Biggun

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    Its a wonder there are any refs left to take charge of United games then considering how often we get screwed over.

    Don't want to discuss the shocking referee bias that gifted Arsenal third do you? No? there's a surprise, you bitter plastic.
     
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  15. goonercymraeg

    goonercymraeg Amnesia Forum Moderator

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    A Stretford fan calling a supporter of another team a plastic.You couldn't make it up<doh>
     
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  16. Ivor Biggun

    Ivor Biggun Member

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    Im sorry, in which part of Wales is Arsenal located again?

    Any self respecting football supporter knows there is no bias, just human error. Its only plastics and armchair fans who hate United more than they support their own team who subscribe to this kind of rubbish.
     
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  17. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    Looking at Mike Dean's record when he referees Arsenal, only a simpleton would not realize that there was something going on. He has only refereed one Arsenal victory in the last 12 or 13 matches. It is so statistically out of line with Arsenal's general premiership record that you have suspicious even if you cant think of a reason for, or don't want to believe, a bias.

    Given that Arsenal's win/loss record is only marginly worse than United's over the same period, is it so difficult for you to appreciate how difficult you would find it to understand, if there was a referee with a similar record refereeing Manchester United games?

    Or that having established this statistical bias, how the man gets to referee a game of this magnitude, when the person that appoints the referees to games is a "Lifelong Manchester United fan". Honestly you have to be a ****ing moron, or a saint to not be suspicious!
     
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  18. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    You're barking up the wrong treee there shwan.<whistle>
     
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  19. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    You mis-state these sites results delierately. The results were calculated based on any "contentious decision" not on whether the decision was correct or not. As any time the fans whine about a decision it gets listed as a contentious decision. I would say that that only thing that the survey showed was which fans whinge the most!
     
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  20. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    You're foreign and support Arsenal. Your argument has become invalid.
     
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