Indeed and as has been pointed out frequently on our forum we all know we've wasted money over recent years. Something your chairman has refused to do...and yet hear the bitters on City and Merseyside moaning about Kenwright every single weekend. If you generated as much money as we do you'd spend it too. The fact that you don't isn't really LFCs fault is it. Judging by Moyes success rate when he has money to spend (which is probably about 50% success as with most managers) you'd be in pretty much the same position as now anyway. The fact is Moyes is excellent at budget shopping. He's like a tramp who can sniff out the only chicken wing in a skip. Massive credit to him for that and it means he is a great match for EFC Of course the Carling Cup isn't exactly scaling dizzying heights especially given that we have spent a lot more than yourselves but it did get us back into Europe and we did get 3 trips to Wembley last year which any fan will tell you (and you may well know yourself if you went) is a fabulous experience. Most media (and a whole host of Reds fans too) will tell you how horrendous last year was for LFC. Yet being honest you yourself must admit that 8th in the league, two cup finals, european qualification and a trophy would be seen as a massively successful season for Everton (or Stoke).
Na, while we have the money, we have the belief (belief is the word you're looking for) deluded is a nice but over used soundbite. It suggests we believe we deserve to win the league automatically ,it suggests we think we'll win it next year. Since you're on our exciting board, give a read at the threads & you'll see some agree with you regarding BR or these owners, some think it will happen quickly under BR, most of us hope that BR & this team as a starting point can get it right over time (me personally 4-5 years & that doesn't mean winning the league it means competing for it) You'll not find any, that think next year will be our year. So think up a new word & stop copying the Mancs. There is a big difference between continuing to believe its possible and not even bothering. All Ill say in addition to that is that between the two our team is still more likely to get back up there. So enjoy this season because I honestly think. It's your last anywhere near the top six.
You obviously can't read then because there were a couple of differences in there a little more important than "attitude" but you carry on. Don't let reality get in the way of your argument.
I never said 'next year', so you're putting words into my mouth there. There's also a big difference between blindly believing it will happen at some point in the future & accepting that it's unlikely to happen when taking the current state of the game into account. The latter isn't defeatist, it's merely realistic, the former is delusional & that was my point.
Ok then you have spent 2.5 times more than EFC In the last 5 yrs and have been a great deal more succesful In that time...How did I miss that??
Words in mouth? Like "blindly believing" eh? I believe I used the word "hope" and the word "belief" in my opinion was regarding being competitive but keep twisting and side stepping what you can't debate eh? Talking of twisting & sidestepping: still ignoring my argument that Roy was sacked for buying bad players, playing good players out of position and playing a style of football suited for a relegation team which funny enough is where we ended up by January and that everyone bar the xenophobic media thought was where we'd stay unless we got rid? Yes I've expanded but I thought maybe I was wrong in assuming what should be obvious to everyone So are you sticking to your idea that the only difference between BR & Roy is positivity? £100 says we won't be in the bottom 4 by January with BR this year because surely only positivity isn't enough to keep us out of there eh? We can even make it for charity.
You seem to have a problem differentiating between putting words in someones mouth i.e. incorrectly quoting them & an opinion. As you wrongly accused me of the 'next years our year' comment, which is putting words in my mouth. My comment about blind belief is merely my opinion. See the difference?
You weren't in the bottom 4 when Roy was sacked were you? I thought you were 12th. In fact I think his record was something like 7 wins in 20 league games, how many has Rodgers got so far? 2 in 9 isn't it? Would you be as eager to take the bet that he won't win 5 out of the next 11 & match Roys record?
Well we currently share the misfortune to have him as England manager. You can see how negative and boring the football is and we will achieve nothing under him.
But our opinions of Rodgers and Roy are completely different because of the style of performances. Despite recent activities and suggestions suggesting otherwise, Liverpool fans have always backed their manager and given them time
I'm disappointed that Gerrard has apologised over his Everton remarks, was it really that much of a big deal?
I suspect it would have been the club and the PR people that applied pressure rather than doing it himself
I was thinking that, no-one is really that concerned about the comments (other than Moyes daughter) it's sparked a bit of banter on here but it was just a little dig no big deal, I don't think Everton fans are that bothered by it?
So you don't put words in peoples mouths eh? Did I say we'd been a great deal more succesful in that time? No I said we had a season that by our standards was very poor and yet we finished only two points behind yourselves, went to Wembley 3 times, won one cup and qualified for Europe (I won't even mention the derby results as that would be cruel). For some teams that would be a very decent season. Do you deny that would be a good season for Everton? Of course it would be and there's no shame in admitting it.
The fact that his remarks were inaccurate when considering the actual facts, then he had to retract it to save face. It was a half arsed retraction anyway tbh
I don't think he even considered the facts it was just a dig, the PR peeople need to get a sense of humour.
Yeah it was a dig, but it was a dig that was out of date, given that we didn't play the long ball & the stats prove it. It was therefore an ill informed jibe, that made him look a bit of a tool, that's the only reason they've got him to retract it, as it doesn't reflect well.
It should also be noted, that the last few games we have had Jones playing in goal, who hoofs it all the time.
