I know I shouldn't respond, but I get sick and tired of his insults everytime I, or anyone else, has the nerve to criticise Schumacher, maybe you should look to yourself, after all you are the mod, not me.
What insults! You come on an F1 forum and bash the same drivers before and after every Gp. Say I have a **** icon, play down everything a driver has done in his career because you don't like him. About time somebody stood up. This is a forum, not a place to lay into the same drivers, just because you don't like them.
Seems like things are heating up at Ferrari: Alonso furious at Ferrari in India http://www.totalf1.com/full_story/view/433844/Alonso_furious_at_Ferrari_in_India/
I heard it's a rumour and nothing else, don't understand why Alonso would start to crack at the end by insulting Ferrari by acting like a bell pepper to key figures, that's 1 way to lose a championship and he should know that already. Fry said they weren't perfect, no team can be perfect, even RBR.
I don't know much about La Stampa, anything known about their reputation? Or is it more like the Sun?
Fair play to Vettel, he has quite clearly got to Alonso's head that he is back to his 2006/07 personality of throwing his toys out of the pram! Also quite funny as I always thought Alonso had the best twitter among the F1 drivers as he never usually had rants on there.
I believe there is one difference that seperates Seb from Alonso and Lewis. Alonso and Lewis consider themselves "the engine" in the team and the main reason for their own success and blame failure on the car if things go wrong. Seb on the other hand considers that he is part of that engine and believes the "whole engine" is RBR, not himself. So he doesn't put extra strain on his shoulders as he just wants to repeat the good work RBR did for him getting there. Maybe that's why Lewis was not able to replace Webber, team unity is far more important than having 2 great drivers. Schumacher was like that, he always wanted to repay his team members and was very dedicated to them in his F1 career, yes he was ruthless on track but Schumacher was regarded as an equal in those garages even if they were just there to stick on a tyre, he respected everybody and felt he owed people for their hard work.
It's all very well to say that, but both Vettel and Schumacher had the luxury of having cars that were the best in the field, and in Schumachers case he knew the team would screw over his team-mate for him when he asked. I personally don't think there's anything worse for a racing driver than having machinery around you that lets you down and doesn't let you show what you're capable of, there's only so much that driving skill can overcome and sometimes the frustration of that failing/uncompetitive machinery will come to the fore.
Maybe the simple fact of the matter is, he initially was actually better than his teammate. And in a team, the logical thing to do is help the driver which is fastest get the best treatment, so that he can maintain that level over others on the grid. I.E. Alonso, Senna, Fangio. That is the whole point of F1 Miggins, you want everything rosy and equal? Go watch golf.
Interestingly, and, if I may be so bold, this is not perhaps as clear cut as you might prefer to imagine, EMSC. In fact it is this that forms the cornerstone of disagreement between those who have fallen in with what they were fed (by the machinations of those in positions of power and therefore promotion, as I hope will become clearer), and those able to see the bigger picture despite such propaganda*. I should add that in saying this, I do not mean to appear dismissive of you or what you are saying. It is simply that your expressed view sums up very nicely where the source of such disagreement lies. There can be no doubt Schumacher was a bit special, right from the word go; but he was also very much the beneficiary of circumstance, even at a very early stage. Prior to his horrendous accident, Johnny Herbert had been even more impressive. Then there was Briatore who very much had his own agenda and personal investments to fettle which required not just a good driver but a particularly like-minded one: one capable of a way of thinking which dove-tailed with Briatore's own. This immediately 'cancelled' the immensely quick Martin Brundle â who was very much an outsider to a grand plan and was therefore discluded and eliminated from it â directly in accord with the very same plan. Thus, the stage was set. â Exactly as conceived by Briatore and sold to his convenient 'friend' Ecclestone, who, rather conveniently, was friends with Mosley (which was not the case with Briatore himself, who had quickly been identified for what he was by Mosley)⦠The politics of the day were very kind to the opportunist. Yes, I am speaking of the politics within F1 of course but by no means am I restricting this assertion to F1! In fact, 'Thatcher's era' directly encouraged and thereby provided the ideal ground upon which it (ruthless opportunism) could be founded. After all, what else could be more effective at self-promotion â the very thing it was encouraging and founded upon itself!!? Yes, the politics of the day were seriously kind to the opportunist; even more if they could be utterly ruthless in every single respect. This very much included all of the above characters, especially the talented but very fortunate man chosen to spearhead such a plan on the track. Indeed, it was vital that such a plan focussed on Him (sic). - - -o0o- - - *I use the word 'propaganda' in its broadest sense and not to be offensive to, or dismissive of, anyone â especially including yourself â who may or may not believe what was prescribed. I also acknowledge that this belief of mine, like yours, is ultimately just a belief based on my perception of the world, albeit based upon knowledge of what was going on at the time.
Do I have to read all that? I will try, so tired Cosi. Basically you think Herbert and Brundle were quicker than Schumacher, and that it is your opinion. The impression he made in Spa back in 91, kind of set his impression on Briatore really. Anyway I respect your views, as you do put them forward in a civil manner.
[1] Sorry if it seems a bit much but the problem is deep rooted and needs an explanation usually too cumbersome for people to bother with. In fact I have only pointed at the surface of a rather large ice-berg which still causes everyone to go around it (often in conflicting directions) rather than over it! [2] If you read what I actually said, you'll see that I steered clear of directly comparing the drivers. Circumstance and opportunity was different in each case, which was the point I was making. Actually, this might be extended beyond the three drivers mentioned. [3] Thanks.
EDIT: I am tired, no point discussing further, we are parallel in terms of opinions, and will remain that way.
As if we have never seen the real Vettel when things are not working his ways. Have F1 fans such a short memory, most seem to have the memory of the last race only. Which Schumacher are you referring to? twisting facts to suit your theories.
Still haven't seen him blackmail his team for number 1 status, or send pictures of team telemetry on his twitter account yet. Oh but he lost his temper a few times.......GOTCHA!
I'm no longer sure if Silver is trying to convince the rest of the world of Vettel's saint worthiness or himself. Just hope and pray that a Danish newspaper doesn't post a cartoon mocking the Prophet Vettel. If they do, be sure to check each post for traces of Anthrax before reading.
Sadly only the pope can do that, he just needs 2 miracles and he would become a saint. Only problem is that the Pope is a Jackie Stewart fan! Maybe I should start a cult? Thou shalt not use Vettel's name in vain... Thou shall show the index finger on the days of Saturday and Sunday... Thou shalt not allow any driver in the same car qualify higher than the Seb... Thou shalt not place any people above Vettel's talent in the team... etc, etc etc... I reckon it could work out I only have to force it down a few people's throats like most religions and I would become a millionaire like the pope!
