Good read that. Pretty much sums up why I despise McLaren, they're so corporate. Whitmarsh seems more concerned with making money than winning races, he goes on about replacing Ferrari as the biggest brand and describes his drivers as "products". I can't stand the bloke, he epitomises what I loathe about society in general where anyone with any personality or willingness to express an opinion (such as Byrne) is chastised, leading to drivers delivering a stock answer during interviews and people being frightened to say what they feel. I think the main issue is tabloid newspapers and their sensationalist headlines twisting what people say.
Yeah, they all seem to have sanitised lifestyles, F1 racers used to be like Rock-gods, now they're more like great aunt Mathilda, in bed by 9 with a cup of horlicks. I personally think the money men have it all wrong, people love a rebel, and no one likes an asslicker except the recipient
Nostalgia is all well and good, but life moves on, times change, harking after some long gone era can be an exercise in futility In the old days when F1 drivers were ni angels it's not a coincidence that the biggest advertisers and sponsors were the alcohol and tobacco firms Player, Walker, Marlboro etc etc Unfortunately their target audience have all died out (pardon the pun) partly as a result of the effectiveness of associating these deadly products with the danger of F1 The new global audiences that have arrived to save F1 are linked to new sponsors and advertisers, tapping into the desires of a new sporty and clean living generation with disposable income Athletiscism, talent, lifestyle are now in Lewis for example is a dream to the sponsors, because he has talent, is clean living (apart from casual hooning) has the MTV lifestyle and achieved all this on his ability and not due to some entitlement or inheritance From timbuctoo to tennesseee the young can relate to this So any amount of old crusties bemoaning the modern situation and banging on about good old days might be better off concentrating on reducing their contribution to carbon emissions
cookin. yu know nothing, the only reason they don't advertise tobacco and alcohol is because they are banned, if they weren't the f1 teams would jump at the chance to take them all back, why do you think we got Hungary? As for Lewis being a sponsors dream, is he? I don't see him in very many ads, and his corporate design personality is a turn off for most I believe, that's why he's far less popular now than he was. I like watching him race, but out of the car I just find him totally fake.
Like I said, tobacco and alcohol sponsors advertisers are gone and the new ones want to send a different message Deal with it or choke
i couldn't care less what you think tbh, and cookinflat6 is normally aspirated flat 6 from 606, a rabid Hamelot, and every post he's made so far has been a veiled insult at anyone daring to say what Hamilton is, so he gets back what he puts in. as for LH, havn't liked him since he used one of the McLaren crew as a scapegoat for his lying in order to preserve his 'corporate identity'. I couldn't care less that he lied, but scapegoating someone shows a severe lack of morale fibre and I persoanlly can't stand people who do that and cost someone their lively hood.
what did you expect? as soon as a hamelot comes on not606 this is gonna be typical, it wasn't even about Hamilton and yet NATS as he is known on 606 jumps in with both feet, he was a prick there, why think he'll be any different here? check some of his other posts if you don't believe me. in a months time it ill be worse as you'll get the rest of the Hamelots trying to provoke as usual.
Ladies behave. This was always going to be a contentious subject due to the fact the drivers' perceived personas are being called into question, but if you can't discuss it without resorting to personal insults just ignore the topic altogether.
I came here because I thought the subject of the thread was interesting. What a shame it has been corrupted into an unpleasant diversion. Even as I write, I'm tempted not to bother clicking 'Post Quick Reply'. But I didââ¬Â¦
I blame 606 coming down. I don't think we'll get many come here than what we think, but it'll be the deluded fanboys. Yeah, it would be good to have more Hamilton in my point of view, but I've seen how bad they are, and I'd rather be the only Hamilton fan here rather than them coming over
Don't worry mclarenf1 I am confident that if Lorca can reform and become a respected mod here, then the Lewis fanboys can also modify their outrageous behaviour Remember what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas
tbh you should jusy make me a mod, i'll put every fanboy down a peg because i'm just power hungry at the end of the day lol.
You could threaten to ban fanboys over race weekends That could give you a boost Red Bull can only dream of