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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by rangercol, Oct 29, 2012.

  1. sb_73

    sb_73 Well-Known Member

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    Hey Flyer, get with the vibe on this thread and apologise for something. You'll feel better in yourself I promise. Doesn't have to be for anything major - breaking a glass perhaps, or always stating your views as fact rather than opinion. Go on, you know you want to......
     
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  2. DT3

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    Well's that's a opinion and I agree to disagree... we are playing some very good stuff at the moment. If you can't agree that Arsenal FC is a footballing world giant then i suggest you re tune your TV. The nature of the current game with all the rule changes and the tactics has never been so tight ... its a new game practically.

    You seem to know a lot about our background who feeds you this stuff? you are just a man I take it in front of a screen.

    I doubt if anyone would disagree that to run a club you need a certain amount of attention on the foundations .. a stable platform if you like ...how is TF not doing that? . You are just one of many who are just venting at the moment ... frustrating isn't it?

    I think you are totally wrong in a nutshell
     
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  3. Queenslander!!

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    Bob, point taken but Im a tradesman my trade. that means i've been doing a job that a lot of other can copy "on the cheap" but i also know the theory and physics behind what i'm doing. Anyone can put a motor together but very few know why or how to do it hte right way or the concequences if its done wrong. Exactly the same as you in your "job"
    I could (& Col) pick a formation but have no regard for outside influences or defending, tracking back etc.... you would.
    Thats why we are just supporters and not managers...
    For the record...I never wanted Hughes. i didnt want Warnock but accepted that he was prob what we needed.
    Hughes has never done anything as a manger IMO but i backed him because he is our No.1. Really hope he can turn it round but still believe (as i did months ago) that he has been found out.
    Regardless of our endless tarbs threads..i can spot a player. We have a good team but they are being "shackled"....Just wish he'd pick our best team and say " hey boys..go out and enjoy / express yourselves"!
    I watched the Wet spam game and thier whole team was laughing joking and enjoing themselves..we were like my misus is once a month.No strike that..every day !!


    SB..quality as ever mate !! lol
     
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  4. bobmid

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    I think you hit the nail on the head. We need to express ourselves! I want to see an opposition full back thinking twice cos they're up against Taarabt and Hoillet not these two guys concentrating on defending their full backs. I know it has to be done at certain times but with the likes of either diakite, faurlin, granero , park we have players to control and cover those areas to allow our creative side freedom.
     
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  5. Queenslander!!

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    Im with you mate..i cant understand why we dont make other teams adjust thier formations to stop us...must only be a few mnore dangerous teams that us going forward ?

    Problem is we can create BUT we cant finish or defend..only going to go one way i think.

    as a player, I'd hate to play against Tarbs, Granero, diakite, Faurs & Hoilett....what defence could keep them out ?!

    If we are to go down then lets do it with some style and class. Playing our brand of football...
     
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  6. Flyer

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    Hughes is too negative and plays for a draw all the time, look at his record at other clubs.

    We had a great chance to have a go at Santos who is horrendous defensively and he put SWP up against him. The defensive wingers is all about stopping their FBs rather than our attacking wingers pinning back their FBs. I can take losing playing LDC type football, I cant take Hughes playing for a 0-0 every game and maybe hoping to sneak a set piece or lucky goal.

    Oh an i apologise for being right all the time! :emoticon-0172-mooni
     
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  7. El Pirata

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    Spot on mate, exactly what I think. We've seen with 10 man against Arsenal we can create chances. So why do every time we need to concede to start attacking. It's bloody frustrating.
     
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  8. Flyer

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    Swansea, we played an attacking team and got hammered, since then Hughes has managed scared and we dont get hammered, instead lose every game by a goal. Id rather get hammered once in a while and win a few than watch his dull, negative football nearly always result in a loss.
     
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  9. DT3

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    SWP played OK Saturday and I for one value his play... YES he made a few errors and had a poor spell and guess what he played some good stuff also.

    Flyer and El Pirata the plan was to contain Arsenal at their home. Have a go at a full back... what when? > I trust a man like Wenger who intact went on to say that QPR are on the up which we are yet you boys can't see it. Flyer you are blinded my friend in a tangle of an imaginary tactical soup. Santos is horrendous defensively yet he plays there for the Arsenal and plays there for Brazil You are welcome to an opinion but you make some the odd dreadful faux pas about the game sometimes
     
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  10. WBA2_QPR3

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    This forum - and others - can become focal points for feelings that cannot be articulated by those unable to attend matches for whatever reason.

    It can; I agree, be a little intense sometimes especially with the dire run of form we've been on.

    I found myself succumbing to fustration and getting a bit too involved a few weeks back and SB reeled me back in. I almost found myself on here again yesterday pouring yet more invective at Hughes - which isn't really my nature. Hence I opted to paint the skirting boards in the extension instead. Boring but more productive.

    Sounding very Blairite I would say that all this heated 'debate' from a bunch of mostly middle aged old geezers just shows the passion we have for QPR. Thats not a bad thing. Personally I should know better. After 40 years of supporting the Rangers they have habitually let me down, I should be used to it by now.

    Anyway its half term so I'm taking the kids to see the new Bond movie this afternoon and then off to The Deep in Hull tomorrow. I will put QPR to the back of my mind this week, I find that helps.
     
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  11. DT3

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    We got opened up in the Swansea game as we were caught up in first day syndrome with a hype that in turn ate us. It's not negative to play the game this way... it's a bloody essential big must. It's not working it's not to speed on the demands of this league by a new team .. it's that simple. How scan you call QPR negative we are playing some superb controlled football at times. Compare how we couldn't even keep the ball. IMO we have bossed during our games and we lost against the Swans by losing our shape and discipline and got punished. about time you started to believe because MH is here to stay and you are just causing yourself grief. It will eat you ... you say you have played the game? ... well if you were at any sort of level you will know that your best football is when it just flows and then your next game comes a lot easier and you build on that... you can just kept blaming this on Hughes .... the team and the club are not where they want to be of course and I believe we will get there I actually like the fact we are rock bottom where else to start a build ... try and look at the good bits there are plenty of them
     
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  12. DT3

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    Good stuff wubba ... drive a saab it also helps mime is back and has 285 horses now ... woof woof
     
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  13. Flyer

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    He had the same plan against Norwich, Everton, WBA, WHU. We never even tried to bear those teams. The only time we ever attack with any intent or threat is when we are behind. In fact we have only led for an hour all season so go behind in virtually every game.
     
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  14. DT3

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    You are correct but during this egames there has been clear evidence that we are becoming a good team. If i was to be critical I think credit has to go to West Ham as they had a plan that smashed up right up IMO apart from that I think we will be a force by the second half of the season ... this is all about a new team on the field learning the hard way but the correct way. We have learnt a great deal in the right way IMO i.e. we learn it right and grow in the right way. we have all hoped for mid table I have hoped for more because i always do ... it's is not too late for that to happen and I wager that up to 8th position won't be clear until 4 games to go
     
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  15. WBA2_QPR3

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    Bloody architect's cars. My old Merc estate putting out 425 nags now so I can get back from away game defeats a lot quicker....
     
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  16. Flyer

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    WHU overrun us in midfield, everyone could see that bar Hughes who insisted on playing 4 against 5. He is making simple tactical errors in every game and its getting worse. eg SWP being recalled and Mackie then doing more in 10 mins against Arsenal than SWP has done all season.
     
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  17. DT3

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    I agree that Mackie's impact when he has played is good but positionally I would have to pick SWP for the role given him each time. I fully understand the bile directed towards SWP but mistakes aside he links stuff up and the team without the ball looks a shade better IMO ... I can't slag off SWP's effort in our team at all but he is suffering a lot on his personal game, he is a very aware player and maybe Mackie lacks this a little overall. I can't defend the fact that we have 3 points from 27 no one can and in our strongest line up I don't SWP in the starting line up ... BUT stock check please SWP can't get in our team at the moment ... this should say a lot. I think the same applies to Dyer as he is a quality player and won't let us down. The days of both of them beating three players before they unleash a 25 harder were gone long before we got them and yet they are still judged by that. Mackie is learning and he will play his part and I am sure that MH knows he won't let us down when he gets his chance. I love our squad it's outstanding and I have to thank MH and the club for putting it all together
     
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  18. bobmid

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    Dt3 you actually like the fact we are bottom?? That has to be the most ridiculous statement I've ever read on here. Please don't say the only way is up cos there are a few more divisions below!!!
     
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  19. Secret ranger

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    Apology accepted
     
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  20. DT3

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    We all need to laugh uncontrollably and then shake our heads violently ... we are just fans ... I need to surpass the most ridiculous statement:

    I believe it's possible to polish a turd with T Cut and I believe we will win the FA cup this season and get into the top half beating Chelsea 2-1 away from home
     
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